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ChiefaRoo 12-19-2007 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
How could McKay be the GM of the Bucs starting in 1993, yet not have control of his drafts?

This makes no sense.

And FWIW, my parents moved to St. Pete's in 1993 and stayed until 1998. I'm pretty familiar with the Bucs as well.
'sup McTranny. Still there?

RedThat 12-19-2007 03:24 AM
Good to see that there are certain posters on here who realize Carl is not the sole problem within this organization.

Tribal Warfare 12-19-2007 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBull
Good to see that there are certain posters on here who realize Carl is not the sole problem within this organization.

The individuals who deserve the blame is the Hunt family and King Carl

chagrin 12-19-2007 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by listopencil
Who made the decision to get rid of Shaub and keep Vick? Because that was really bad. Was that McKay?
Everybody was after Shaub, he would have gone eventually anyway; besides, it doesn't look like he can stay healthy as a full time starter, but who knows, I just don't think it was a "bad" move.

chagrin 12-19-2007 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dtebbe
Yea, he really sucked ass in 2006. 22 touchdowns and 1039 yards rushing (8.3 per carry). And he was not exactly surrounded by talent, short of Alge Crumpler he had nobody to throw to.

I mean the guy is a bonehead, but he didn't exactly suck ass. Consider St. Tom Brady only had 24 TDs, and only one less INT than Vick in 2006. Vick ran because he HAD to. His o'line was aweful, and he recievers couldn't catch herpes in Mexico.

DT

The only part I will disagree with with is the talent question; in 2006 I believe he had two top 20 WR draft picks, White and Jenkins. He chose not to throw much of the time. I know he can run and should have in the right times; I only saying he had talent there, he made the choices; they weren't "not open" 75% of the time.

chagrin 12-19-2007 06:17 AM
Anyway, on topic - Parcells will be a good GM and I do hope we sign someone else.

Brock 12-19-2007 09:32 AM
Parcells says "probably".

Hootie 12-19-2007 09:36 AM
I wouldn't want to coach with Parcells looking over my shoulder...

Al Bundy 12-19-2007 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GOATSE
So McKay = overrated?

Who hired Gruden, BTW?
McKay= Overrated and Gruden was a Glazers hire, McKay wanted Marvin Lewis desperately.

the Talking Can 12-19-2007 09:54 AM
it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about McKay..the point is that he has won a Superbowl and been to an NFC Championship game in the last decade, and yet the Atlanta organization canned him after 4 years...

Carl has a record of abject failure for 14 straight years, and he has the most job security in the league...

Simplex3 12-19-2007 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Bong
it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about McKay..the point is that he has won a Superbowl and been to an NFC Championship game in the last decade, and yet the Atlanta organization canned him after 4 years...

Carl has a record of abject failure for 14 straight years, and he has the most job security in the league...
Bingo.

Bowser 12-19-2007 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight
McKay= Overrated and Gruden was a Glazers hire, McKay wanted Marvin Lewis desperately.
Dude, have you not seen our GM the last 20 years? I'd take that resume over Carl's anytime.

Brock 12-19-2007 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight
McKay= Overrated and Gruden was a Glazers hire, McKay wanted Marvin Lewis desperately.
So what, Peterson hired Gunther Cunningham and Herm Edwards.

patteeu 12-19-2007 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Bong
McKay was given 4 YEARS and then demoted

Carl is given 20

one franchise is serious, one is ****ing asleep....
The Falcons made it to the Superbowl after the '98 season. I'd still take the last two decades with Carl Peterson over the last two decades of Falcons football.

Are there really people out there who'd prefer the Falcons over that time period? We'd have probably lost the franchise to another city by now.

Hootie 12-19-2007 10:09 AM
was McKay even with the Falcons in '98? I thought he was with Tampa Bay back then?


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