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Mecca 12-28-2007 03:16 PM

Expect it, I was just listening to 810 and they said they were sent a release that said "Carl and Herm will be available for an end of the season press conference"

siberian khatru 12-28-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
If Clark Hunt keeps the status quo after Monday then that is all we need to know about his commitment and whether he cares or not.

Carl and Herm will convince him that all they need to do is shitcan a few coaches and bring in some new players. Clark will just kick the can down the road to 2009.

greg63 12-28-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Expect it, I was just listening to 810 and they said they were sent a release that said "Carl and Herm will be available for an end of the season press conference"

I doubt seriously that they are going anywhere, unfortunately.

Messier 12-28-2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
they left a GM in control that hasn't won jack in 15 years ........


what does that tell you?


btw - how in the holy f*** do you think the Kansas city Chiefs can have ANY fairweather fans left when the fair weather left 10 years ago?


What's your problem? You seem so angry. If you really feel so insulted by what the columnist for the Chiefs web site said then maybe he's right and you do need to find another team or something, because you obviously aren't going to just have fun and support the Chiefs win or lose.

Mecca 12-28-2007 03:23 PM

It's the nature of our organization......Lamar Hunt had more losing seasons than winning seasons, he refused to fire people, his son is following right along in those footsteps.

No one really said bad things about Lamar because he was an old man who was dying and that seemed mean. But the Chiefs ownership is a serious problem they allow this to go on.

Tribal Warfare 12-28-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier
What's your problem? You seem so angry. If you really feel so insulted by what the columnist for the Chiefs web site said then maybe he's right and you do need to find another team or something, because you obviously aren't going to just have fun and support the Chiefs win or lose.



Yay, a TRUE FAN!!!!!!!!!!

Mecca 12-28-2007 03:26 PM

I love people who think we should just love the Chiefs even if they do things wrong. What are we suppose to be, drooling reeruns that just go "Yea Chiefs! Durrr"

FringeNC 12-28-2007 03:27 PM

Ya know I just thinking that this shit wouldn't happen in college football. The boosters act as a sort of board of directors that will run a bad coach / AD off, even if the college president doesn't have a sack. Matt Millen and Carl Peterson would have been gone long ago.

Chiefs' fans want Carl and Herm gone, but have no way to convey that to an absentee owner without giving up their season-tickets. What Clark probably doesn't realize is that if he were to shit-can Peterson and Herm, he could RAISE ticket prices. In college, the boosters make sure the message gets across to the empty suits.

Messier 12-28-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
Yay, a TRUE FAN!!!!!!!!!!


Oops. Sorry. Didn't mean to post anything with out the words, fire, Carl, and Herm in it.

Tribal Warfare 12-28-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier
Oops. Sorry. Didn't mean to post anything with out the words, fire, Carl, and Herm in it.


yeah, because we all know true fans love to eat their KC Chief made shit sandwich with a smile :banghead:

Mecca 12-28-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier
Oops. Sorry. Didn't mean to post anything with out the words, fire, Carl, and Herm in it.

You can post things that don't imply that you need to be a fan of a different team if you don't agree with what the Chiefs do...The Chiefs deserve everything they get. They have the same GM for 19 years, they can't draft, they hired a shitty coach and the team has bottomed out, they got what they asked for.

Messier 12-28-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I love people who think we should just love the Chiefs even if they do things wrong. What are we suppose to be, drooling reeruns that just go "Yea Chiefs! Durrr"


So you like being just, "I hate Carl! I hate Herm! This team stinks!" "someone should protest! Then they'll see!" "They'll have to once we show them!" "Grrrrrrr!!!" "Even though my protest will have no discernible effect on the organization or how it's run, because it's not a democracy!" Rrrrrrrrrrroooarrrrr!!!!" "I'll stop watching....that'll show 'em."

No thanks.

Mecca 12-28-2007 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier
So you like being just, "I hate Carl! I hate Herm! This team stinks!" "someone should protest! Then they'll see!" "They'll have to once we show them!" "Grrrrrrr!!!" "Even though my protest will have no discernible effect on the organization or how it's run, because it's not a democracy!" Rrrrrrrrrrroooarrrrr!!!!" "I'll stop watching....that'll show 'em."

No thanks.

Why should Carl keep his job? He's had 19 years, he'd have been fired years ago if this was any other team...

What more can you expect people to do? It seems like nothing short of Carl dying will get rid of him, he's like a Supreme Court Justice. And the team does suck, that's not being anything other than being honest...

I think if Carl was fired, and you saw a real new direction people wouldn't react nearly the way they do now.

FringeNC 12-28-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Why should Carl keep his job? He's had 19 years, he'd have been fired years ago if this was any other team...

What more can you expect people to do? It seems like nothing short of Carl dying will get rid of him, he's like a Supreme Court Justice. And the team does suck, that's not being anything other than being honest...

I think if Carl was fired, and you saw a real new direction people wouldn't react nearly the way they do now.

Right, if some fans are second-guessing Belichick and Pioli, those fans are laughable. If some fans are second-guessing Peterson and Herm, they are probably right. There is a pecking order of GMs, and how is Carl not near the bottom after 15 years with zero playoff wins? He may not be incompetent in an absolute sense, but relative to his peers he certainly is.

Donger 12-28-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I love people who think we should just love the Chiefs even if they do things wrong. What are we suppose to be, drooling reeruns that just go "Yea Chiefs! Durrr"

Yes. Masochistic junkies.


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