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JuicesFlowing 09-03-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPote (Post 4974550)
Good coaches recover quickly from that misfortune. I'm embarrassed to display my Chiefs garb......

Then change teams. Why are you a Chiefs fan?

Rasputin 09-03-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4975406)
I blame Lamar Hunt for allowing Carl to stay on and conntinue to do the same things, year after year, after they had already failed, over and over.

Sad isn't it. All the BS Carl Peterson has done over the years the list goes on and I get upset thinking bout it too much. Just the way he handled Neil Smith alone should have gotten him fired. We never had a long term QB just a quick fix old banged up rejected QB year after year. Nothing stable either our defense was good but not the offense, or our offense was good but our defense sucked!

Mr. Plow 09-03-2008 05:51 PM

I liked that article. Made me feel better.

milkman 09-03-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 4975415)
I have been making the same point as this article for 3 years. You are right, the offense would have stayed #1 if Willie Roaf had not retired. Herm should carry no blame. :spock:

Herman ****ing Edwards deserves some blame.

Hiring Mike Solari (whether or not he was forced on him is a debate for another day), then handcuffing him, hiring Dick Curl, running LJ into teh ground, etc.

However, laying all the blame at Herman ****ing Edwards feet ignores the fact that Dick Vermeil and Carl sucked ass in the draft, failing not only to fix the defense, but spending so many picks on that defense, and allowing the O-Line to grow old without any viable replacements.

The offense, under Dick, did what it did because it had one of the greatest O-Lines, ever.

Reerun_KC 09-03-2008 06:03 PM

Herm is on the same coaching level as Rich Kotite...

Reerun_KC 09-03-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 4975415)
I have been making the same point as this article for 3 years. You are right, the offense would have stayed #1 if Willie Roaf had not retired. Herm should carry no blame. :spock:

Nice Try big ED...

But the fact remains that Herm cannot and will not have a productive Offense...

Give him the Chiefs of 2005 and he would of destroyed that recorded setting offense in less than a full season...

If Herm has no blame, then why hasnt he fixed the OL yet. IF he is so ****ing great at judging talent....

Buzzsaw 09-03-2008 06:23 PM

Herm would be a great college coach. All his rah-rah bulls**t would probably be really effective in recruiting talented young guys. And he is a good motivator. But he's not cut out to be an NFL HC. I'm surprised there's still supporters out there....

Coach 09-03-2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw (Post 4975563)
Herm would be a great college coach. All his rah-rah bulls**t would probably be really effective in recruiting talented young guys. And he is a good motivator. But he's not cut out to be an NFL HC. I'm surprised there's still supporters out there....

Nah. Again, the big problem with Herm is that his football philosophy is severely out-dated. He runs the ball to open the passing game. That doesn't work anymore. You have to pass in order to open the running game.

He'd get slaughtered, just like Greg Robinson for Syracuse is right now.

Reerun_KC 09-03-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 4975576)
Nah. Again, the big problem with Herm is that his football philosophy is severely out-dated. He runs the ball to open the passing game. That doesn't work anymore. You have to pass in order to open the running game.

He'd get slaughtered, just like Greg Robinson for Syracuse is right now.

Yeah I cant see Herm running a spread offense in college...

Guys like Meyer, Pinkel, Big Twinkie (Mangino) and others would run him right out of the stadium on saturdays...

Coach 09-03-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 4975587)
Yeah I cant see Herm running a spread offense in college...

Guys like Meyer, Pinkel, Big Twinkie (Mangino) and others would run him right out of the stadium on saturdays...

No different than the guys in the NFL doing the same thing on Sundays.

Mecca 09-03-2008 06:34 PM

The point of the article is that "no matter what has been lost look what they still have, they have no excuse to be this bad on offense and the reason they are is Herm Edwards horrible philosophy"

I don't see how that makes it a bad article it's true, Herm wants to play offense like it's 1967.

People can defend Herm all they want the truth is the man is a shitty coach that refuses to adapt.

Tribal Warfare 09-03-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 4975349)

And finally, I'll never get over the "Get over it! It happens. It’s called life" comment. Motherf**ker should had been fired right after that press conference.

That comment reminded me of "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." - Vince Lombardi


Which is sad

milkman 09-03-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4975623)
The point of the article is that "no matter what has been lost look what they still have, they have no excuse to be this bad on offense and the reason they are is Herm Edwards horrible philosophy"

I don't see how that makes it a bad article it's true, Herm wants to play offense like it's 1967.

People can defend Herm all they want the truth is the man is a shitty coach that refuses to adapt.

It's a bad article because it does balme Herman ****ing Edwards entirely for the total decline of the offense, and that simply isn't the case.

Reerun_KC 09-03-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4975646)
It's a bad article because it does balme Herman ****ing Edwards entirely for the total decline of the offense, and that simply isn't the case.

True Milkman, but Herm hasnt helped his cause any......

milkman 09-03-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 4975663)
True Milkman, but Herm hasnt helped his cause any......

No he hasn't.

I just believe that you should be fair when you critisize a player or coach.

I can't stand Herman ****ing Edwards, and don't think he will ever get this team to where we want to go, but I like to think that I critisize him, and evertyone else, fairly.


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