I've watched Oher a little bit now, he's a stud. Andre Smith for Alabama is a stud. Neither of them have anywhere close to the impact that Matt Stafford has for his team.

A great O-line ain't winning us a Super Bowl, but a great QB will.

LOL.....I think if some fans were in charge of the Chiefs we'd draft 10 offensive linemen and a fullback.

Well, we've run the option during the first series of a game, so does this seem far-fetched now?

Great thinking. Putting a QB in there with a porous line worked so well for David Carr, Akili Smith and Tim Couch.

Here's the deal between Stafford and Bradford. Stafford is what you want physically in a QB, big arm nice body. Bradford is what you want mentally for a QB. I havent been real high on Stafford but he showed me a little more tonight. He forces alot of stuff but he has the arm to do it. Bradford is tough as nails though, he took a couple of big licks tonight and still got the ball off. As of right now I still like Bradford better but Stafford is moving up in my book.

on the same token, one has to have a great O-line to run or pass efficiently, or the QB will be running for his life and the RBs will go nowhere or get killed. I hate bringing this part up, but look at fundamentals that made the 03-05 KC Chiefs offfensive squads great, and that was because of the O-line.

I like Stafford. I just think Bradford out-grading him at this point. Time will tell.

OU does run alot of spread, but they are still more af a pro style offense. I share your concerns about his frame, but no one can question his leadership, decision making, accuracy and subsequent stats.

You know you can have both.....A good line and a great QB.

I think Stafford would be viewed better of he didn't have guys drop 10 balls a game...he puts the ball in perfect windows and his guys drop balls. I think that makes him actually better prepared for the NFL, he's already use to throwing it into windows, that's how you play NFL QB, rarely does anyone run free.

Dude, we're the Chiefs...

Same here, I'm starting to warm up to the idea of drafting Stafford, but Bradford is in the Bill Walsh mold of QBs smart, calculating, accurate, mobile, and a natural leader.

And your point is?

You know you can build a line without using first round picks right? The Cowboys used 0 first round picks on their offensive line...Green Bay hasn't either..

And QB's that fail, fail because they weren't going to make it not because of their situation. Those guys you mention all had giant questions to begin with.....Carr had a slow release and held the ball to long it was what got him sacked so much.

Akili Smith was a 1 year wonder.....Couch came out of a very gimmicky college offense where he threw it 60 times a game.

Other than the league is different now, the league is much more of a vertical league now than it is a ball control passing league.

That we've been a half-ass put together franchise for a long time now. :shrug: