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Agent V 11-09-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5205389)
It was the right call. No doubt about it. At 1-7, on the road, you've got nothing to lose.

Plus we had no men left on defense anyway. It'd been great to screw San Diego in their house with the conversion, but it didn't happen. I'm furious, but I don't blame the decision to go for it.

**** the refs.

damaticous 11-09-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Portlantis (Post 5205166)
I agree with us going for two at the end. Except for that last drive, our offense was non-existent in the 2nd half, and the Chargers were moving the ball at will. We would not have won in overtime.

I agree with you hole heartedly.

Bearcat 11-09-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5205396)
no .... but running the bootleg immediately cuts the field in half and limits your options.

it also limits the time your QB has to make a decision because general the DE on that side of the field goes unblocked.

you have 3 options

1. QB can just run it

2. QB can throw it to the RB in the flat

3. QB can throw it to the WR/TE a little deeper


btw you have like 2 seconds to make the decision because of the free DE.


i would of much prefer to call a play like we did when we scored the touchdown.

Thigpen can look over the entire field and doesn't have to make a decision until the defense forces him to make a decision.

the Defense has to cover the quick slants, the fades,the fade stop, the run .... everything, which increases your chances.

:shrug:


but like i said .... i'm fine going for it.

Those are pretty good options with Thiggy at QB and TG in the endzone, but I see your point about using the entire field. I guess it's hindsight, and in that case I'd take my chances with that sort of play. Like someone said though, the game was over at halftime anyway.... stupid Herm.

milkman 11-09-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5205406)
The game was over at the half (again). We ran on every first down the second half until 6 minutes left in the 4th. We've been Hermed three weeks straight. Too bad Hunt is such a moron he'll think this is progress. Welcome back next year, doofus. (BTW, I didn't mind going for 2, but since we quit early anyway, it really doesn't matter).

I'm not sure that the break down of plays would show that we ran on every first and second down until the final 6 minutes.

However, what we did do was abandon the intermediate and deep routes, and allowed the Chargers to defend a short field.

Dylan 11-09-2008 07:01 PM

Question: What is the right call to make if a team has a good defense?

Go for 2 pts or look to tie the game?

TIA

Tiger's Fan 11-09-2008 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5205496)
I'm not sure that the break down of plays would show that we ran on every first and second down until the final 6 minutes.

However, what we did do was abandon the intermediate and deep routes, and allowed the Chargers to defend a short field.

I just said first down, not second. We also went away from the no huddle up to that point in the fourth as well. It's basic Herm philosophy to shut it down at the half with any lead, and we did as expected, again. He says he wants to protect the defense, then does anything he possibly can to put pressure on them. He's a walking contradiction, with a smirk on his face all the while. He can't die enough deaths in my opinion.

Mr. Laz 11-09-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5205375)
Gailey called a bootleg on 1st and goal and the Chargers weren't fooled. Why would he expect them to fall for it a few plays later on the 2 point try? Just odd.

the bootleg is only a weapon IF the defense is worried about the running play ..... nobody is afraid of our running game.

milkman 11-09-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5205617)
I just said first down, not second. We also went away from the no huddle up to that point in the fourth as well. It's basic Herm philosophy to shut it down at the half with any lead, and we did as expected, again. He says he wants to protect the defense, then does anything he possibly can to put pressure on them. He's a walking contradiction, with a smirk on his face all the while. He can't die enough deaths in my opinion.

Even if we are only talking about first down, I still don't beleive he ran it every time.

But we agree that he went into a passive mode on offense after the first half and attempted to protect the lead, and that is a recipe for failure.

DJ's left nut 11-09-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5205452)
I hear ya. It just pisses a person off what this team can do with a shell of a roster, only to be outcoached endlessly.

We outcoached the Chargers today.

I despise herm as much as the next guy, but do you not see the talent the respective teams fielded and yet we lost because of a long-snapper?

Herm sucks, Norv sucks worse.

Reerun_KC 11-09-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5205649)
We outcoached the Chargers today.

I despise herm as much as the next guy, but do you not see the talent the respective teams fielded and yet we lost because of a long-snapper?

Herm sucks, Norv sucks worse.

What is funny about it, I turned and told my uncle that when Herm gave Norv the handshake at the end of the game. That was the closest to a superbowl ring Herm will ever get...

Damn I am funny!

KcMizzou 11-09-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoReerun_KC (Post 5205665)
What is funny about it, I turned and told my uncle that when Herm gave Norv the handshake at the end of the game. That was the closest to a superbowl ring Herm will ever get...

Damn I am funny!

You overrate yourself.

Skip Towne 11-09-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 5205559)
Question: What is the right call to make if a team has a good defense?

Go for 2 pts or look to tie the game?

TIA

"The Book" says to go for the win on the road and for the tie at home.

Tiger's Fan 11-09-2008 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5205649)
We outcoached the Chargers today.

I despise herm as much as the next guy, but do you not see the talent the respective teams fielded and yet we lost because of a long-snapper?

Herm sucks, Norv sucks worse.

To a point. But I'm not enamoured of the talent on the Chuggers as much as others are. Their O-line is questionable, and I think their secondary is terribly overrated. Phyliss Rivers is still a headcase that you never know what you'll end up with in any given game.

theultimatekcchiefsfan 11-09-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5205194)
I don't know, I'd say the odds of getting a last second two point conversion are less than the odds of winning a coinflip.

J E T S

KcMizzou 11-09-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5205755)
To a point. But I'm not enamoured of the talent on the Chuggers as much as others are. Their O-line is questionable, and I think their secondary is terribly overrated. Phyliss Rivers is still a headcase that you never know what you'll end up with in any given game.

I get a kick out of his little bitch fits.


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