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DaneMcCloud 07-21-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5915149)
Hold on.

I wouldn't be shocked if Roethlisberger DID actually have sex with her.

However, I would be shocked if it was done against her will.

Again, there are too many reasons to think otherwise.

Why wait a year? You're only making it harder to prove, especially when you have everything you need from a DNA standpoint to report it right away.

Plus, she's flat out lying about there being cameras in the room.

Sounds like she spent the last year trying to come up with a believable story, if you ask me.

Did you read the complaint? Especially from 89 on? If not, you need to read it before coming to any conclusions about "why".

In short, she told the Head of Security, who reported it to no one. He did no follow up. The defendant fell into a heavy depression shortly thereafter and had to be admitted to a hospital for dehydration and depression. Read it thoroughly for the facts as to "why".

Personally, that doesn't sound like someone who's a "gold-digger".

OnTheWarpath15 07-21-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5915271)
Did you read the complaint? Especially from 89 on? If not, you need to read it before coming to any conclusions about "why".

In short, she told the Head of Security, who reported it to no one. He did no follow up. The defendant fell into a heavy depression shortly thereafter and had to be admitted to a hospital for dehydration and depression. Read it thoroughly for the facts as to "why".

Personally, that doesn't sound like someone who's a "gold-digger".

I read the entire thing.

I'm sorry, but having worked in the Casino business for many years, anyone with half a brain knows you report something like that to the POLICE, not to the Chief of Security.

And doing so the DAY AFTER?

Christ, she "allegedly" had Rothlisberger's ****ing jizz on her stomach. How hard would it have been to drive to the GD police station and/or hospital, be given a full physical and prove this incident actually happened?

If I'm a woman that's sexually assaulted and he leaves evidence on my ****ing body, the next stop I'm making is the police station.

Instead, she NEVER reports the incident to police, only to hotel security.

Like I said before, it wouldn't shock me in the least if he actually did have sex with her, but I'm seriously doubting that it happened without her consent.

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5915306)
I read the entire thing.

I'm sorry, but having worked in the Casino business for many years, anyone with half a brain knows you report something like that to the POLICE, not to the Chief of Security.

And doing so the DAY AFTER?

Christ, she "allegedly" had Rothlisberger's ****ing jizz on her stomach. How hard would it have been to drive to the GD police station and/or hospital, be given a full physical and prove this incident actually happened?

If I'm a woman that's sexually assaulted and he leaves evidence on my ****ing body, the next stop I'm making is the police station.

Instead, she NEVER reports the incident to police, only to hotel security.

Like I said before, it wouldn't shock me in the least if he actually did have sex with her, but I'm seriously doubting that it happened without her consent.

Well, we'll see.

I find it odd that she was able to rise quickly through the ranks of the hotel business to V.P., yet she failed to file a police report.

But, rape victims often do weird things. I think it screws women up pretty badly, so I'm pretty much unwilling to place any blame at this point, especially on the victim.

That's up to the courts and quite frankly, I'm ****ing sick of people being tried in the "Court of Public Opinion".

LaChapelle 07-21-2009 04:13 PM

This reminds me of a post in the Steve McNair thread. Where someone posted they knew him, and he was a totally different person when he drank. Mr outstanding athlete sober.

OnTheWarpath15 07-21-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5915333)
Well, we'll see.

I find it odd that she was able to rise quickly through the ranks of the hotel business to V.P., yet she failed to file a police report.

But, rape victims often do weird things. I think it screws women up pretty badly, so I'm pretty much unwilling to place any blame at this point, especially on the victim.

That's up to the courts and quite frankly, I'm ****ing sick of people being tried in the "Court of Public Opinion".

Fair enough, but I'm ****ing sick of athletes and entertainers reputations being drug through the mud over money.

Even if he's found innocent, this accusation will follow Roehtlisberger his entire life, and for what? So some bitch could try to make a few bucks by defaming him?

Ask the guys in the Duke Lacrosse case how normal their lives are now, even after the truth came out.

stumppy 07-21-2009 04:18 PM

[quote=OnTheWarpath58;5915306]
If I'm a woman that's sexually assaulted and he leaves evidence on my ****ing body, the next stop I'm making is the police station.

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See, that's the thing. You're not a woman. You have never and will never be put in this situation.
Everybody knows the way they think about things is a hell of a lot different than men do.

Not saying I know what the truth is but I'm willing to wait for more information before making a snap judgment about the validity of his and her claims.

LaChapelle 07-21-2009 04:20 PM

Let's say you're a 125lb. bellboy and you're overpowered and raped. How quick do you report it to the police?

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5915339)
Fair enough, but I'm ****ing sick of athletes and entertainers reputations being drug through the mud over money.

Even if he's found innocent, this accusation will follow Roehtlisberger his entire life, and for what? So some bitch could try to make a few bucks by defaming him?

Ask the guys in the Duke Lacrosse case how normal their lives are now, even after the truth came out.

Well, each and every case is different.

I'm not "sad" that Kobe's name was "drug through the mud" because while I'm a fan of the Lakers, I'm no longer a fan of Kobe.

Conversely to your point, I'm sick of these athletes being treated like ****ing gods because of their athletic ability and feel that the law should apply to them, instead of being a "roadblock" to getting them back on the field.

And it's not just nationwide athletes. "Looking the other way" is a national pastime to law enforcement of college towns. Do you read SI? Did you read the story of Jeff Komlo? That ****ing guy was treated like a king for 20 years after he played at Delaware.

Delaware!

**** 'em if they're guilty.

orange 07-21-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 5915345)
Let's say you're a 125lb. bellboy and you're overpowered and raped. How quick do you report it to the police?

Or say you're a female hotel worker familiar with the Kobe Bryant case. How seriously are you going to think your charges against a famous athlete will be taken?

OnTheWarpath15 07-21-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 5915342)
See, that's the thing. You're not a woman. You have never and will never be put in this situation.
Everybody knows the way they think about things is a hell of a lot different than men do.

Not saying I know what the truth is but I'm willing to wait for more information before making a snap judgment about the validity of his and her claims.


If you'd read, I'm not claiming I know exactly what happened either, only what the circumstances lead me to believe.

There is only one piece of evidence that even remotely suggests that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted this woman, and that is the "word" of said victim.

Everything else points to her being FOS.

Not contacting the police, just assuming someone else would.

Waiting a day to contact ANYONE.

Lying about the "cameras" in the room.

Waiting an entire YEAR to file suit.

If it actually happened, she had the ability to make it an open and shut case by reporting it to police and being given a physical.

Instead, she waited a year and it's now a "he said, she said" case, and she really doesn't have a leg to stand on, IMO. She has to PROVE it, and she pissed away her chance to do so a year ago.

Rasputin 07-21-2009 04:25 PM

so how big of an affect will this have on Big Ben & the Steelers? Is he going to miss any practice or games cuz of court? I think he is innocent but this has to be a devastating thing to go through at the start of a new season.

orange 07-21-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 5915357)
so how big of an affect will this have on Big Ben & the Steelers? Is he going to miss any practice or games cuz of court? I think he is innocent but this has to be a devastating thing to go through at the start of a new season.

It will probably be months before this ever goes to court - maybe even after the season.

The next thing to see will be the responses by Roethlisberger and the other defendants.

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2009 04:27 PM

I find it hard to believe that a woman would fall into a massive depression and need psychiatric and physical hospitalization because she had consensual sex with Rothlisberger.

OnTheWarpath15 07-21-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5915346)
Well, each and every case is different.

I'm not "sad" that Kobe's name was "drug through the mud" because while I'm a fan of the Lakers, I'm no longer a fan of Kobe.

Conversely to your point, I'm sick of these athletes being treated like ****ing gods because of their athletic ability and feel that the law should apply to them, instead of being a "roadblock" to getting them back on the field.

And it's not just nationwide athletes. "Looking the other way" is a national pastime to law enforcement of college towns. Do you read SI? Did you read the story of Jeff Komlo? That ****ing guy was treated like a king for 20 years after he played at Delaware.

Delaware!

**** 'em if they're guilty.

If they are guilty, I agree 100%

Kobe's reputation was ****ed regardless because he was married.

There is a huge difference, however, in a single Ben Roethlisberger getting some consensual strange and being accused of rape.

I'm don't want to see things get "covered up" if it actually happened, but thus far the only person suggesting it is the person that waited a year to bring her case.

LaChapelle 07-21-2009 04:34 PM

Being seen as a golddigger or seen as damaged goods is a walk in the park.


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