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Petro ripping the Chiefs... (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=217810)

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6247481)

The players loved Herm Edwards. Loved him. That shoots a gigantic hole in your theory.

All management is about bringing in your people. I have moved or let people go all the time that are not my people. To further complicate things when you come in behind someone who instilled no work ethic and held nobody accountible you have to clean house.

TG deserved to play on a team where he had a chance fo a ring. Trading had nothing to do with treating him badly, it's what he wanted.

New Chiefs management deserves a chance to turn this around. The only thing I have not been happy with is not addressing our O line. The fact that people think that mamby pambying around is going to make this team better is a joke. Herm proved that.

BTW I made some sarcastic comment to a friend of mine about Herm on Friday. Turns out Herm is his cousin. lol What r the odds?

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6247518)

i will say though I see more of an effort in the players when Herm was here compared to Haley.

ROFL ooook.

God damn, now he is crying about the weoight loss crap.....someone send Petro some cotex

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6247537)

if you want to see a coach who had players love him and had great relationships with his players and also had good teams look no further then Vermeil.

THe St Louis mutiny gets overpaved by a SB win.

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6247389)

This may be your opinion, which is cool, but the way players are treated is very important. It's a little thing but a big thing. A coach that has good relationships with his players and excellent people skills goes a long way. I can where Petro is going with this.

Vermeil loved his kids and look where that got him. The beginning of the turd tunnel we're in now.

I'm somewhere in the middle, you have to treat the players like professionals and not high schoolers but you don't have to treat them to dinner at your house and cry at their 26th Birthday party.

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6247518)

Herm was great at dealing with people. But was awful when it came to managing and getting his teams prepared. And he also did a porous job when it came to game planning, strategizing and make adjustments.

i will say though I see more of an effort in the players when Herm was here compared to Haley.

LMAO....yea, right!

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6247518)

WOW, that's all I have to say about that.

Coaches are only as good as the people they surround themselves with. That could use some work, most can agree on.

Petro still slamming the Chiefs for "shipping out" TG.....LMAO

Now Haley was wrong for not running off LJ befor ethe season......

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Originally Posted by MichaelH (Post 6247566)

Vermeil loved his kids and look where that got him. The beginning of the turd tunnel we're in now.

I'm somewhere in the middle, you have to treat the players like professionals and not high schoolers but you don't have to treat them to dinner at your house and cry at their 26th Birthday party.

In this statement,are you referring to when he coached the kcchiefs?

Cause that could easily be argued. He never changed his mentality on how he dealt with others throughout his career and thats part of the reason he was successful. It's part of the reason he won a bowl imo.

the team he built in kansas city was old, he built a veteran team.

sooner or later the guys he added on the roster needed to be replaced. Thats the nature of football, old players need to be replaced with younger players..out with the old and in with the new..Had he constructed a roster that was young, and took the time to nuture the players, and treat them with decency and respect, and develop and coach the young players along the way, the Chiefs would be in a totally different situation today.

*I see what you are saying in your last paragraph, and I want to elaborate, as a coach it's okay to be soft, but not too soft..Its okay to be tough as well, but not too tough...You just have know how to treat players according to the way they behave in particular circumstances or situations..And Vermeil did struggle with that at times. But he represents a classic example of how love and respect is a lot more powerful compared to being a prick and disrespectful.

Its better to be loving and respectful then to be a prick and disrespectful. Not everyone will respond well to a prick that is disrespectful. i think people respond better to someone who is more loving and respectful.

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 6247574)

WOW, that's all I have to say about that.

The effort from this team isn't exactly good.

I don't care who they run off as long as they don't keep losing and yelling "We don't have any talent".

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6247627)

Cause that could easily be argued. He never changed his mentality on how he dealt with others throughout his career and thats part of the reason he was successful. It's part of the reason he won a bowl imo.

He did change his mentality when he was with the Rams. He had a near-mutiny on his hands.

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6247642)

I don't care who they run off as long as they don't keep losing and yelling "We don't have any talent".

You have to have talent to begin with to run talent off.