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suds79 01-08-2010 01:25 PM

I like the thought of McClain or Spikes over the thought of drafting Okung which seems to be somewhat popular out there.

58kcfan89 01-08-2010 01:44 PM

I freaking love McClain and if Berry isn't there, we need to have McClain on our team IMO. Whether we take him at 5 or not isn't a big deal to me (Todd McShay has him as the #6 overall player...I know he's a tard, but still...) considering we need help all over the defense.

McClain has been called an extention of the coaching staff by a lot of people and would be a great addition to a defense that doesn't have a leader (don't even bring up Vrabel). Not to mention that he was in on a lot of plays last night and seems to have all the physical skills to be a solid ILB. I know you're not supposed to take an ILB that high, but the same goes for Safety. Someone around here put it best when they said that we're in the position that we can draft just about anyone and have them be an upgrade to what we currently have. I think you can build a great defense around Brandon Flowers, Glenn Dorsey and either Eric Berry or Rolando McClain. Too bad I can't really include Tyson Jackson in that list.....

Chiefnj2 01-08-2010 01:49 PM

Your ILB's are only going to be as good as the front 3 let them. If the front 3 don't occupy the OL and linemen are getting clear shots at the LB's, then it doesn't really matter if you have McClain or not.

Basileus777 01-08-2010 02:03 PM

If Berry and Clausen are gone, then McClain probably is the best option. Taking a project safety like Mays at 5 would be a much bigger reach than McClain.

Icon 01-08-2010 02:20 PM

Other than Suh there are no "elite" players at traditional valued positions, i.e. QB, DE and OLT. I think most anyone we select at #5 might be considered a reach using traditional thinking.

I'm like many posters here who stated I don't care if we reach or not I just want a player who makes an impact his rookie year. I really don't care if it's Safety, Linebacker or Wide Receiver. We need playmakers on both sides of the ball.

El Jefe 01-08-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyaf2 (Post 6423222)
Absolutely. Give me someone that is actually playing for ROY on either side of the ball. Not another hack from LSU or some other marginal player. There isn't a player on this team that can't be upgraded at #5 outside of flowers/charles.

THIS x1000, good freaking post :clap:

El Jefe 01-08-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sfchief (Post 6423348)
Daryl Washington, ILB, TCU http://walterfootball.com/college/TCU_logo.gif
RD #3 FTW!

Washington is a beast, he is crazy fast too! I would take him in the 3rd.

Thig Lyfe 01-08-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6423369)
Ecstatic picks:

1. Eric Berry
2. Jimmy Clausen

Picks that I'd be ok with:

1. Taylor Mays
2. Rolando McClain

Pretty much this. I'd probably be in-between on Clausen, but re-uniting him with Weis (and just the thought of the Chiefs actually drafting a quarterback in the first round) would get me pretty excited.

El Jefe 01-08-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6423450)
If we trade back NOT to take Berry, I'm going to break my ****ing TV.

Yeah I would the whole thing.

suds79 01-08-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6423923)
Your ILB's are only going to be as good as the front 3 let them. If the front 3 don't occupy the OL and linemen are getting clear shots at the LB's, then it doesn't really matter if you have McClain or not.

That's true.

But look where we stand. We have our 2 DEs but need a NT bad. Well there isn't one available at #5 that warrants that high of a pick.

So I expect the Chiefs to get that NT either via Free Agency or later in the draft.

But our LB core has been ignored in the draft for a long, long time and that has to change sooner or later.

Chiefnj2 01-08-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6424066)
That's true.

But look where we stand. We have our 2 DEs but need a NT bad. Well there isn't one available at #5 that warrants that high of a pick.

So I expect the Chiefs to get that NT either via Free Agency or later in the draft.

But our LB core has been ignored in the draft for a long, long time and that has to change sooner or later.

I agree it needs a huge upgrade, but that upgrade won't be felt, or shall I say materialize, until the front 3 does their job. If KC takes McClain, and he doesn't put up Cushing like numbers there will be cries of "bust", or " we could have taken [insert name of 3rd round LB with similar stats] and gotten the same value."

spanky 52 01-08-2010 03:08 PM

Get ready for Pioli to take either NT Williams or Cody. Doesn't look promising in free agency and he's shown he'll reach with Jackson last year.

irishjayhawk 01-08-2010 03:09 PM

I think you take John McClain in any situation. Just look at how he dispensed Hans Gruber.

58kcfan89 01-08-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfchief (Post 6423348)
Daryl Washington, ILB, TCU http://walterfootball.com/college/TCU_logo.gif
RD #3 FTW!

Would love him in the 3rd, especially if we fill our NT need either before the draft or before the 3rd round.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 6424066)
That's true.

But look where we stand. We have our 2 DEs but need a NT bad. Well there isn't one available at #5 that warrants that high of a pick.

So I expect the Chiefs to get that NT either via Free Agency or later in the draft.

But our LB core has been ignored in the draft for a long, long time and that has to change sooner or later.

This. I fully expect Pioli to throw some serious dough at any NT that warrants it in FA (assuming they're available) or to adress it in the draft. He also hopefully knows that a LB corps consisting of Vrabel, DeMorrio Williams, Derrick Johnson/Corey Mays and Tamba Hali is simply not good enough and I expect him to work at fixing that as well.

Mecca 01-08-2010 04:19 PM

I said it before I'll say it again...

Damian Williams will be a better NFL player than Dez Bryant.


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