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Mecca 01-11-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436004)
Not saying he was stellar, but his stats would be markedly better had WR's not dropped 4+ passes a game.

So what he'd get 40% over 2 years?

The fact that he was only marginally better with the Patriots receivers should tell us it's not just the receivers.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6436009)
So what he'd get 40% over 2 years?

The fact that he was only marginally better with the Patriots receivers should tell us it's not just the receivers.

I agree. But this year he had no help from said receivers.

Sully 01-11-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6435784)
Did a bunch of people really just admit their view of Matt Cassel essentially hinges on the fact that he plays for our team?

Ill root for him because he's my team's QB. That's not saying I expect much better just because he's my team's QB. But it does, essentially, make me a Cassell fan.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 6436015)
Ill root for him because he's my team's QB. That's not saying I expect much better just because he's my team's QB. But it does, essentially, make me a Cassell fan.

What other choice do we have? We want to win.

Lumpy 01-11-2010 08:33 PM

He's hottttttttttttttttttttttttttt. :D

Mecca 01-11-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436016)
What other choice do we have? We want to win.

It kind of sucks to tell you the truth.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-11-2010 08:34 PM

I'll tell you my biggest fear. He gets hurt early next year and extends the Cassel experiment into 2011 and beyond. We need to see what we have with this guy. Quickly.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6436019)
It kind of sucks to tell you the truth.

I'll admit I was in his corner when we signed him. But I was nervous after the reports in training camp and seeing the much noticable difference in arm strength between him and Croyle.

After about half way I started some Matt Cassel sucks threads and got neg repped by several. By the end of the season I feel I was on the correct path with said threads.

Mecca 01-11-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6436026)
I'll tell you my biggest fear. He gets hurt early next year and extends the Cassel experiment into 2011 and beyond. We need to see what we have with this guy. Quickly.

I'm pretty sure we're getting at least 2 more years, I think Haley will get fired before we change QB's.

Mecca 01-11-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6436028)
I'll admit I was in his corner when we signed him. But I was nervous after the reports in training camp and seeing the much noticable difference in arm strength between him and Croyle.

After about half way I started some Matt Cassel sucks threads and got neg repped by several. By the end of the season I feel I was on the correct path with said threads.

I didn't want him before we ever made the move, the move just irritated the **** out of me. I don't think you can win anything with Matt Cassel at QB so we're stuck here spinning the wheels.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-11-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6436034)
I didn't want him before we ever made the move, the move just irritated the **** out of me. I don't think you can win anything with Matt Cassel at QB so we're stuck here spinning the wheels.

That's pretty much where I've been on this. It's well documented. For the 20th time, I hope I'm wrong.

petegz28 01-11-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6436034)
I didn't want him before we ever made the move, the move just irritated the **** out of me. I don't think you can win anything with Matt Cassel at QB so we're stuck here spinning the wheels.

If we do it will be because of defense and a solid running game. I can't see putting the ball in his hands and doing anything more than 4 wins without him making some huge strides.

soundmind 01-11-2010 08:46 PM

He has to improve to a place where he's making the players around him better. He has to lead receivers into and out of their breaks, and he needs to trust things enough to put some touch on the ball. There were countless plays this year that were 18" behind the wideout...but there were as many that hit someone in the helmet or hands and neither failed attempt falls in our favor. It's hard to play well when your trust or faith is constantly being challenged, that absolves him of nothing, but it's exhausting.... Dropped passes weigh about 20-50 pounds each I'd say. That's what gets added to the weight the QB is carrying on his back when the receiver drops the ball on 3rd and open. In short, I say better timing and what can be statistically be called accuracy I guess, but more completely is really his impact on other players. If he's hitting guys in stride on everything and is recognizing that the best wideout we have is the open one, I'll be a very happy fan.

Basically we need marked improvement. There needs to be a presence from that position, but he needs talent around him and for Chief's sake a QB coach (obligatory). We need some explosive talent at the WR/slot position. I like Bowe and Chambers, but they're nearly the same player in my mind, which isn't bad necessarily. What's wrong with having talented man-sized depth at WR in the NFL? That's rhetorical, but the answer is nothing. We need however, a Santonio Holmes-Welker-Jackson-Maclin-Harvin-Esque player. Somebody feisty and quick/fast with option routes in their veins. Somebody has to get open, and become a threat with the ball in their hands.

Just my couple cents, sorry if I rambled.

DeezNutz 01-11-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy (Post 6436017)
He's hottttttttttttttttttttttttttt. :D

LMAO.

Evidence A for why it's easy to be a guy. Mother****er looks like the missing link, and somewhere there's a chick who thinks he's hot.

acesn8s 01-11-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6435651)
What does he have to do to convince you he is worth the starting spot? I won't say worth the $ cause I don't think that will ever happen but, that being said....

An offensive line.


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