ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Should Chiefs reach out to Rich Gannon to be QB's coach? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=221584)

dirk digler 01-12-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6438156)
This has absolutely nothing to do with your question.

99.999999% of the guys who earned in excess of $10 million dollars while playing in the NFL are not going to leave their wives and children for the grind of working as an assistant coach. They're not going to work 70 to 100 hours per week, especially while earning in excess of $4 million per year in the broadcast booth.

Bringing up Gretzky, a guy who was part owner of the franchise he coached, is irrelevant to football.

Oh and you're crazy if you don't think it's about money: Otherwise, why would they all have agents?

I tend to agree though I believe there is going to be one huge exception and that is Peyton Manning. I have a feeling he is going to become a coach once he retires.

TigerPig 01-12-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6438156)
This has absolutely nothing to do with your question.

99.999999% of the guys who earned in excess of $10 million dollars while playing in the NFL are not going to leave their wives and children for the grind of working as an assistant coach. They're not going to work 70 to 100 hours per week, especially while earning in excess of $4 million per year in the broadcast booth.

Bringing up Gretzky, a guy who was part owner of the franchise he coached, is irrelevant to football.

Oh and you're crazy if you don't think it's about money: Otherwise, why would they all have agents?

The same reason a guy who owns his own company would have a lawyer. Whenever you are in a situation that is important, you always need to have someone with greater knowledge about the subject represent you. Just because it isn't all about money doesn't mean these people are just going to give up millions for nothing.

But coaching isn't nothing. If a player wants to coach they will, regardless of how much money they have or will get. You don't want to become a coach, you HAVE to become a coach. Its not a job, its a calling. No one would want to do a job like that without absolutely loving the game. You can say its a lot of money, but think of all the GREAT HS and Div 3, 2 and 1-AA coaches there are out there that make JACK SQUAT, yet work their asses off. They aren't doing it for the cash.

DaneMcCloud 01-12-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6438195)
But coaching isn't nothing. If a player wants to coach they will, regardless of how much money they have or will get. You don't want to become a coach, you HAVE to become a coach. Its not a job, its a calling. No one would want to do a job like that without absolutely loving the game. You can say its a lot of money, but think of all the GREAT HS and Div 3, 2 and 1-AA coaches there are out there that make JACK SQUAT, yet work their asses off. They aren't doing it for the cash.

This completely off-topic and has absolutely nothing to do with why a player like Rich Gannon, who earned will in excess of $10 million dollars during his playing career and currently earns more than $4 million per year in the broadcast booth, would take a 70 hour per week job to earn $250 per year.

I know more than a few NCAA DI coaches around the country. They're well educated, intelligent, connected and make a good living. But don't think for a second that if ANY of these guys were offered $4 million to sit in the booth for 16 weeks, they wouldn't quit their jobs in a heartbeat.

TigerPig 01-12-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6438249)
This completely off-topic and has absolutely nothing to do with why a player like Rich Gannon, who earned will in excess of $10 million dollars during his playing career and currently earns more than $4 million per year in the broadcast booth, would take a 70 hour per week job to earn $250 per year.

I know more than a few NCAA DI coaches around the country. They're well educated, intelligent, connected and make a good living. But don't think for a second that if ANY of these guys were offered $4 million to sit in the booth for 16 weeks, they wouldn't quit their jobs in a heartbeat.

I know they wouldn't. But its not because of the money. If they can coordinate a team in the NFL that makes them more successful. You're putting way too much emphasis on money. These people do what they do because they love the game. And the ones who don't love and just want the money? Ryan Sims, Jamarcus Russell, etc.

What I am trying to get across is its not work for these people if they really want to do it. It may take 100 hours a week, but if its what you love and what you desire to do, its worth it. And it has nothing to do with money. It has to do with proving you are the best, which is what these people have been doing their whole life. They aren't going to stop any time soon.

But I have a feeling there are a few NCAA coaches who would turn down Pro Jobs. I think even 20 years ago Paterno wouldn't have, nor Bowden. And even though its basketball, Coach K could be offered 20 million a year and he'd NEVER leave Duke

DaneMcCloud 01-12-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6438271)
I know they wouldn't. But its not because of the money. If they can coordinate a team in the NFL that makes them more successful. You're putting way too much emphasis on money. These people do what they do because they love the game. And the ones who don't love and just want the money? Ryan Sims, Jamarcus Russell, etc.

What I am trying to get across is its not work for these people if they really want to do it. It may take 100 hours a week, but if its what you love and what you desire to do, its worth it. And it has nothing to do with money. It has to do with proving you are the best, which is what these people have been doing their whole life. They aren't going to stop any time soon.

But I have a feeling there are a few NCAA coaches who would turn down Pro Jobs. I think even 20 years ago Paterno wouldn't have, nor Bowden. And even though its basketball, Coach K could be offered 20 million a year and he'd NEVER leave Duke

How old are you? 20? 21? How many NFL assistants do you know? How many college assistants do you know? How many times have they had to uproot their families in the past three years? The past five years? The past 10?

You have an extremely naive view of the world if you believe that ANY NFL or college assistant wouldn't give up the grind in a heartbeat to sit in a broadcast booth making $4 million per year, while living in the city of their choice with their family.

Another thing that you haven't considered is that most of these guys don't do this job because they "love it", it's because they can't do anything else. Do you think that guys in their 40's and 50's LOVE moving their families year after year? Do you think these guys "LOVE" worrying about whether or not they'll be able to keep their children in college?

You really don't get it.

Chiefaholic 01-12-2010 05:23 PM

Is there a particular reason why you feel the need to be a jackass, Dane? I agree with most of the points you make, but you could say the same thing w/o looking like a prima donna in the process.

TigerPig 01-12-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6438377)
How old are you? 20? 21? How many NFL assistants do you know? How many college assistants do you know? How many times have they had to uproot their families in the past three years? The past five years? The past 10?

You have an extremely naive view of the world if you believe that ANY NFL or college assistant wouldn't give up the grind in a heartbeat to sit in a broadcast booth making $4 million per year, while living in the city of their choice with their family.

Another thing that you haven't considered is that most of these guys don't do this job because they "love it", it's because they can't do anything else. Do you think that guys in their 40's and 50's LOVE moving their families year after year? Do you think these guys "LOVE" worrying about whether or not they'll be able to keep their children in college?

You really don't get it.

Actually I do get it. Life isn't all about money. Although I'm not proud of it, I have been very poor as a child. I'm probably still poor by most people's standards (make about 15k a year). And I'm still here. If someone offered me a job paying me twice as much as I am now but I hated it, guess what? I wouldn't do it! Life is too short to be miserable, especially when you don't have to be. I'd rather live paycheck to paycheck then get up every day going, "crap, this is going to suck."

Pulling the age card on me tells me you're older. And for an older person I'm amazed you haven't figured out there is more to it than money.

Chiefaholic 01-12-2010 05:28 PM

To respond to the topic, I doubt Gannon would work as a position coach, but there's a possibility of Steve Deberg doing so since that's basically what he does already with NFL prospects. Weis is the likely option the Chiefs will take, but if they hired from outside the organization, deberg would be a good addition.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:51 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.