Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6595335)

All of them were intentional other than the initial extend/extent.

I'm actually so lazy about my revising/posting here that it's ridiculous. I find so many errors in my posts when I reread them. At one time, I was extremely conscientious about such things. Now I don't really care.

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 6595293)

Fu*k that

...the really good ones go on to the NBA and own million dollar homes and 3 hummers and 2 escalades....I dont think they're feeling to bad about being "used" by the university.

And for the others that arent good enough for the NBA....screw them again....they have opportunity that many people in america dont have...a free-ride at a 4-year university with the opportunity to get a degree. What they do with that opportunity is up to them....but again, there are a lot of 19 year old kids working at jack in the box and not in school.....or even worse, working 30 hours a week to pay rent, etc....and trying to pay tuition for themselves at a junior college.

I feel no pity for "student athletes".

Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 6595237)

It seems as if everyone is missing the point. This particular story has little to do with failure. The enrollment rates have dropped and the tax base has dwindled. In this case they are actually doing the right thing by closing several schools.

The actual education being provided still sucks but this consolidation gives them a real chance at improving things.

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 6595358)

##k a free ride, that only gives you time for a bullshit degree. Take that basketball and throw it to f##cking moon. Maybe ony 1 in a million kids on a court today have NBA talent. However most people given of average intelligence and the same amount of sweat equity wasted on the basketball court could become doctors. But in the kcmo school district even that has become a remote possibility.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6595096)

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 6595237)

It seems as if everyone is missing the point. This particular story has little to do with failure. The enrollment rates have dropped and the tax base has dwindled. In this case they are actually doing the right thing by closing several schools.

The actual education being provided still sucks but this consolidation gives them a real chance at improving things.

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 6595248)

Whites value worth wile educations and endeavors and are encouraged to do so. Blacks on the other hand are handed a basketball

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 6595404)

You're out of your mind....

So a 4-year degree from Duke University or USC, or (insert any division 1 school)....is (as you put it) a "bullshit degree"???!!!

I guess you may be sitting behind a desk with your Phd on the wall behind you...maybe that's why you can sh*t on all those "bullshit" degrees from nationally-recognized for excellence universities.

It must be a comforting position for you to be in.

As I said before....there are thousands of kids (and adults as well) who would kill to be given a free-ride for a degree at a division 1 university.

If USC wants to give me a free ride to come play for their fencing team (or whatever).......I'm more than happy to put on the gear for their, as you put it - white alumni. At the end of the day, I have a degree from a division 1 school....and I didnt pay a dime for it.

One more thing to add.....of all these bb players....how many were going to have the opportunity to go to a 4-year university and get a degree if they werent playing bb?

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 6595471)

The school does't give the degree its true earning power. It is the major. A 4 year degree in psycology, art, or counseling, is not going to pay very will no matter what school you go to. Besides there are things such as academic scholarships that probally require less effort, time and talent, than dribbling a basketball 7 days a week, after school at practice and on the play ground, from age 5 to 18.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6595442)

It's connected to failure because parents have been fleeing the failed KCMO school district for quite some time now, which I'm confident is a big factor in the declining enrollment and to a somewhat lesser extent the declining tax base.

The plan seems reasonable, but the KCMO school board is so full of fail that it's hard to believe that either of the alternatives that split the board 5-4 is a good idea. It's much easier to tell when the vote is 9-0, because then you know the defeated measure was the right way to go.

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 6595471)

The school does't give the degree its true earning power. It is the major. A 4 year degree in psycology, art, or counseling, is not going to pay very will no matter what school you go to. Besides there are things such as academic scholarships that probally require less effort, time and talent, than dribbling a basketball 7 days a week, after school at practice and on the play ground, from age 5 to 18.

Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6595488)

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Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 6595194)

I agree, funding may not be a cure all, but with its absence problems will only get worse. My wife and I were both products of the KCMO magnet theme. I graduated in 94 and she graduated in 96. We both greatly benefited form the magnet themes. She went to Southeast's health and information magnet, and in result has a job as medical transcriptionist. I attended Southwest Science Math Magnet, and developed excellent analytical and mathematical skills which helped me attain an associate's degree in Industrial Electrical Technology, an A.A.S. in engineering, an electrical apprenticeship with a local union, and a master electrical license. I don't think the districts integration policy made a damn bit of difference in the quality of education that was to be administered. The race of my class mates made about as much difference as the race of my teachers. The real loss I believe was these programs that peeked the interest of at least some of the students of the district and allowed us to develop skills to have a chance in life.