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aturnis 04-12-2010 06:55 PM

I'm a Berry/Clausen trade down guy for the most part.

Mecca 04-12-2010 06:55 PM

I'm asking you, you are pretty consistently saying a safety isn't worth a top 5 pick so what do you want to pick?

Let me guess Dan Williams right?

Titty Meat 04-12-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669122)
Aturnis is basically arguing to not take Berry because of his position, so what does he want to do?

Lets value position over player again, I want some more Tyson Jacksons.

He's a dumbass you'd think living on a farm he'd watch alot of football the guy doesn't know shit.

CanadaKC 04-12-2010 07:01 PM

despite all the rhetoric....I fully believe that if the skins will take Okung...and we'll take Berry...both fill a need..both blue chip prospects and BPA...then we can all exhale...

Mecca 04-12-2010 07:02 PM

I don't I think the Chiefs are going to trade out of their pick.

aturnis 04-12-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6669133)
He's a dumbass you'd think living on a farm he'd watch alot of football the guy doesn't know shit.

You're going to take Berry at #5 and pay him that kind of money, to have him throw his body around with no regard for his health? He's not a linebacker. Leave the injury game to Troy.

aturnis 04-12-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669143)
I don't I think the Chiefs are going to trade out of their pick.

With who, for what, and who is the other team moving up to get?

Mecca 04-12-2010 07:06 PM

Either Cleveland or Buffalo, maybe both, if they don't want 5 moving with Cleveland will be easy because they want Berry and don't really have a good backup plan if they don't get him...Buffalo the QB thing is apparent.

I've been saying all along that McClain is a Pioli guy and I'm back to that.

Saccopoo 04-12-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6669060)
Similar how? The Chiefs have pieces on the line. I'm sorry that you are such a ****ing idiot that you can't recognize that.

The Redskins have nothing except Casey Rabach.

Yeah, the Chiefs have pieces on the line. Pieces of shit.

Weigmann is well past his prime and is a one year stop gap at best. Lilja could very well be Mike Goff pt. 2. Was he a product of the Mudd coaching and benefitted from Manning at QB? There has got to be a reason for his release by the Colts besides "We want to get bigger." Waters is slow as molasses. O'Callaghan is not good. At least he wasn't last year. Albert had a horrible season in '09.

It's amazing to see that people around here are so astute in looking at another team an determining that they have a problem with the offensive line, but refuse to acknowledge the same needs on the Chiefs. It's okay for another team to pick an offensive lineman in the draft because "they have a need", but the moment anyone mentions it for the Chiefs, half this site has a catastrophic level meltdown. It's like no one seems to have watched this team the past two seasons and saw the offensive line being completely over-matched in nearly every single game.

Titty Meat 04-12-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6669145)
You're going to take Berry at #5 and pay him that kind of money, to have him throw his body around with no regard for his health? He's not a linebacker. Leave the injury game to Troy.

This is football.

aturnis 04-12-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6669133)
He's a dumbass you'd think living on a farm he'd watch alot of football the guy doesn't know shit.

And we're back to this...

http://i50.tinypic.com/x6bdrt.jpg

Mecca 04-12-2010 07:17 PM

I think Sacc is one of those guys that thinks you need 5 all pro offensive linemen to move the ball.

I just watched 2 teams play in the bowl that didn't have any 1st round picks on their lines.

The Bad Guy 04-12-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6669151)
Yeah, the Chiefs have pieces on the line. Pieces of shit.

Weigmann is well past his prime and is a one year stop gap at best. Lilja could very well be Mike Goff pt. 2. Was he a product of the Mudd coaching and benefitted from Manning at QB? There has got to be a reason for his release by the Colts besides "We want to get bigger." Waters is slow as molasses. O'Callaghan is not good. At least he wasn't last year. Albert had a horrible season in '09.

It's amazing to see that people around here are so astute in looking at another team an determining that they have a problem with the offensive line, but refuse to acknowledge the same needs on the Chiefs. It's okay for another team to pick an offensive lineman in the draft because "they have a need", but the moment anyone mentions it for the Chiefs, half this site has a catastrophic level meltdown. It's like no one seems to have watched this team the past two seasons and saw the offensive line being completely over-matched in nearly every single game.

Do you even know who the Redskins have on the offensive line? Rabach, Dockery, Artis Hicks, Mike Williams and Stephon Heyer. That is their starting 5. That is the worst offensive line in the NFL. By far.

Yes, that offensive line really looked overmatched when Jamal Charles was running circles around people. Lilja, Mike Goff really? He was playing very well when he was here during his first stint. So the coaching that Mudd gave him he's automatically going to lose?

The problem is you think we need to fill our need on the line with our first pick.

I love how you keep saying Albert was horrible, yet he didn't decline as the year went on. I know you expected him to look like a world-beater in his 2nd year in a new system, but some of us are willing to give him a 2nd year in the same system to see what he can do.

We can get an RT replacement later in the draft.

The Redskins are going for broke now. You don't trade for a 33 year old QB who you will likely open the brinks truck up for after this year to watch him get murdered.

There's a stark difference between Stephon Heyer and Brendan Albert.

BossChief 04-12-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669066)
Myron Rolle, you know what I want? A safety that hasn't played in a year runs a 4.8 40 and has hype cause he's book smart, man sign me up.

he ran a 4.55 at his pro day iirc.

stick to the facts

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669164)
I think Sacc is one of those guys that thinks you need 5 all pro offensive linemen to move the ball.

I just watched 2 teams play in the bowl that didn't have any 1st round picks on their lines.

and that has been the case for about 10 years now, with very few exceptions.

BigMeatballDave 04-12-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6669125)
I'm asking you, you are pretty consistently saying a safety isn't worth a top 5 pick so what do you want to pick?

Let me guess Dan Williams right?

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