Apparently not much if the city is having to pay 10-15 per year.

Yes. I understand that. But the idea that Westport and other places are now ghost towns just is not the case.

At the end of the day P+L has been good for this city. It isn't my scene for nightlife but I like what it has done and it has been good for my business personally. Hell, the P+L space was used a few weeks ago in a great way to pretty much seal KC's bid as a host city for the World Cup which will be a huge financial gain for the city.

It has done a lot of good things directly and indirectly.

I think you are taking the narrow view.

Meh. I'm going to the Blarney Stone for some reasonable drinks and shuffleboard, bitchhh...

ESPN Zone closed a few weeks ago, along with 4-5 more in other cities.

Nah I just think things could be better. For example Westport is 1000000X better than PNL but howcome you can bring your beer outside at PNL but not at Westport? It's bullshit how much the rules are changed for PNL.

Meh, its just business and politics. It just is what it is...it doesn't bother me that much. Some businesses are adapting just fine. More so P+L took a lot of the dbags out of Westport...I like the crowds there more now than I used to it also brings money in from people from JOCO and other suburbs who wouldn't come within 100 ft of Westport because they believe the myth that it is really dangerous.

Thats a good point about the douchebags. I was there Friday and realized there wasn't many douchebags. Yea the myth about Westport being dangerous is funny, though I did see 3 cop cars speeding towards Main St. and The ghetto bird. Juco folks aren't used to that.

I was going by what someone posted. I worked in Atlanta back in 2002 and the going rate for a beer was $5.50 at couple of the places we went to. I left sober :)

I don't remember drink prices being really out of hand. Of course I don't drink all that much so when I do it isn't a big issue. I think a single wide IPA bottle was 5 and change or something after I would get done shooting at the piano bar. Which seemed fair enough for a premium domestic.

Another Cordish project going down the drain. Damn, now I need to find more new things to do in Baltimore.

I don't think it was Cordish. I believe most of the ESPN Zones around the country were closed.

I'm not saying it is not doing good things for the city; I'm saying that so far it has been a financial debacle for the tax payers because of the city and Cordish. The Legends developer paid off debt early...Cordish is asking for more. If it was so successful in revenue then the debt would get paid down...not increased. At some point someone needs to be held accountable. With the Sprint Center was built there was a budget and once the money was gone it was gone and AEG was on the hook. No such deal with Cordish about P&L. AEG couldn't double dip...why should Cordish?

I think anyone who goes to a fancy place or a trendy place expects to pay higher prices. The club scene is not my thing. If I am in one it is a southend place where I can throw darts. They can draw a rougher crowd but if you are a southender they most likely know you and there won't be any trouble. Late at night it can get a little rowdy but nowdays I am gone by then :) You can get Bud, Coors and the like for around $2.25 to $2.75 and call drinks around $3.50 to 4.00~

I don't particularly think P+L is fancy or trendy...it is just where people like to go. It isn't really about being seen but more so I want this certain drink and I want to be in a certain place.

The places I like to go to personally are pretty varied...some nice some not so much.