this whole thing is reactionist BULL SHIT. its a violent sport, played by men. this is just another excuse to give the offense more of an advantage then they already have. its simple, you don't want your wide receiver getting hurt because he's running over the middle right through the cross hairs of a defender, don't run him over the middle. its ridiculous to ask a defender to not try to jar the ball loose or make the receiver remember a hit the next time he comes across the middle. JFC, just make it touch or flag football if you are that worried about it.

scenario: 3rd and 7, offense driving in the red zone, and your team is protecting a 4 point lead. a wr runs an 8 yard crossing pattern, and the pass is thrown. the only chance you have to stop them from getting a first down is your FS coming up and knocking snot bubbles out of the WR's nose in an attempt to jar the ball loose. the nfl is now saying it will be flagged, and your FS will be suspended.

this is like telling nascar drivers "its too dangerous to run full throttle so we're gonna put speed limits on you"

Chris Kluwe - the idiot punter.

A few years ago? Like 18 years?

what i say to cleveland is "tough shit" and quit running routes over the middle. and its not like its easy to just knock someone out of the game. shots to the head being banned i get. but there is no way a defense can be effective without being able to hit someone.

lineman have more negative longterm effects then skill positions.

that is part of the game, and after getting hit once or twice, they know what's coming and won't focus on the ball as much. its called a defensive strategy.

the defenders are screwed; under the current rules, they only chance they have to effect the play is to hit the guy to jar the ball loose. They need lax the PI on defensive players; or extend the 5 yard chuck rule to 10 yards.

Once a WR is beyond 5 yards, the defender has virtually zero chance. I don't blame them for laying the wood on a receiver; it's basically the only time the receiver can be touched.

it's going to be sad when/if the NFL goes this route

Acting like an authority on a subject when in fact you are no such thing is rather poor form.

Yep. Get ready to see a whole lot of blown ACLs as the new rules drive hits straight to the knees.

Relevant post is relevant.

I like the violence. I don't way my time and money to see people just running around.

THEN Y DONT U JUST GO WATCH UFC OR SUMFIN IF U JUST WANNA WATCH PPL GET HURT?

I guess you missed the point in question. If the same type of incident occured in a game, and two members of the same team hit helmet to helmet and injured one or both of them, would there be a fine an suspension?

Remember, in the video it said the whole fault was on the guy hitting. In the case I noted the QB stepped up into the pocket and the two jets crashed. Deberg's fault for moving? Byrd's fault for aiming in a manner unfitting of the new rule?

Just taking a circumstance from way back and asking how the same type of incident would be treated under this new rule.

Flag football anyone?

Gah. I honestly did spend 10 seconds debating whether you were baiting me or not.


I see I lost on that one. :shake:

:D Dude, you KNOW by now how Donger rolls.