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Ebolapox 05-24-2011 09:38 PM

or, his splitter is taking away effectiveness of his other pitches.

Reaper16 05-24-2011 09:49 PM

It's been obvious for a long time that he's playing hurt. He's a guy who has tried to play through pain before, too. His new cutter that he's obsessed with isn't helping matters one bit, though. Just speculation, but that cutter might even be the reason he's hurt. I don't know why the organization gave the OK on him learning a cutter.

milkman 05-24-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7661363)
It's been obvious for a long time that he's playing hurt. He's a guy who has tried to play through pain before, too. His new cutter that he's obsessed with isn't helping matters one bit, though. Just speculation, but that cutter might even be the reason he's hurt. I don't know why the organization gave the OK on him learning a cutter.

Maybe he'll have another surgery and be back to his old self by '13.

BWillie 05-24-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7661363)
It's been obvious for a long time that he's playing hurt. He's a guy who has tried to play through pain before, too. His new cutter that he's obsessed with isn't helping matters one bit, though. Just speculation, but that cutter might even be the reason he's hurt. I don't know why the organization gave the OK on him learning a cutter.

Why does everybody keep saying that? I know being hurt doesn't always translate to velocity, but he's not losing velocity. I've been to 2 of the last 6 home games and he pitched in both. He was throwing 92-95 consistently.

RickObie 05-24-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7661374)
Maybe he'll have another surgery and be back to his old self by '13.

With another team!

Reaper16 05-25-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7661511)
Why does everybody keep saying that? I know being hurt doesn't always translate to velocity, but he's not losing velocity. I've been to 2 of the last 6 home games and he pitched in both. He was throwing 92-95 consistently.

This is true, in so far as I can tell from one home game during the last homestand and on FSN's radar gun. Difference is he can't locate pretty much anything except a fastball so straight it'd make Ambiorix Burgos say "Dude, really?" His delivery is ****ed up compared to seasons past. I think it's CLEAR that he's pitching through an injury.

eazyb81 05-25-2011 06:11 AM

Looking at his Pitch FX data this season, there is no doubt that Soria is broken.

The question is whether or not he can come back from this - without seeing Dr. Andrews and going through surgery.

Unfortunately I am not overly optimistic.

eazyb81 05-25-2011 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7661542)
This is true, in so far as I can tell from one home game during the last homestand and on FSN's radar gun. Difference is he can't locate pretty much anything except a fastball so straight it'd make Ambiorix Burgos say "Dude, really?" His delivery is ****ed up compared to seasons past. I think it's CLEAR that he's pitching through an injury.

Which is reasonable considering this is the last guaranteed year of his contract. We have team options each year beyond this one.


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