I think Stanzi's a fine project. Good size, good arm, smart kid. Looks like a Pioli-type QB.

Kstater said he thought Freeman would only play 5 or less season. Just long enough to get enough money to follow his dream of training for the iditarod. It's not that he was all that much into the race. Or working with the dogs. He was just looking forward to being on the pole 24/7.

Being a 2nd round QB prospect means you've got skills but nobody likes you enough to expect you to do anything. The 2nd round is where you draft guys with 1st round talent and 7th round brains.

I never want to draft a QB in the 2nd. Ever.

So, you don't want Drew Brees?

I wish we'd taken him instead of trading the #8 pick for Trent Green.

Did Drew Brees win a Super Bowl with the team that drafted him? How about Brett Favre?

I'm pretty sure there have been more undrafted free agent QB's to win Super Bowls than there have been 2nd round picks who won with the team that drafted them....:thumb:

Probably b/c of the fact that there have been way more UDFA QB's in the league than 2nd rounders. Odds are better when there are more. Also, who gives a good goddamn if they won with the team that drafted them? Is it their fault that their team was too stupid to realize what they had?

Rivers had the size and strength Brees didn't, so the Chargers wanted to use him. Brees played himself into a franchise tag in a contract year. Then in the final game tore the labrum in his throwing shoulder, and there were other reports of rotator cuff damage. The Chargers knew this and still offered him a 5yr. 50mil. contract. He chose to explore other options b/c he was insulted by the incentive laden contract. New Orleans gain.

Favres coach never approved of the pick and said it would take a plane crash for him to put Favre in the game. The Packers saw the value, and traded the #19 overall draft pick for him. The rest is history.

How can you fault these QB's for their arrogant superiors.

Me thinks you know not what you speak of. The second round is not for stupid first round talents. It's for any talent with question marks of any kind.

That's exactly what this team needs. More James Killians. That will fix our QB problem.

I would take Mallett in the 2nd round. He's a headcase but I would rather take him a chance on him than some of our "wonderful" 2nd round picks lately like Turk McBride, Dexter McCluster, etc.

I'm clearly a mouth breather. I have no idea what I'm talking about, the 2nd round is the ideal round to find franchise level QB talent.

Choosing Brees as your "proof" that 2nd round is legit for Super Bowl QB's is the same as using Brady as proof you find the same thing in the 6th round.

The QB position is completely different than every other position on the field. They don't rate the same, and they aren't valued the same, and they don't contribute the same.

If you're looking for a QB start in the 1st, if you can't find one there wait and pick up a few projects late. The guy who thinks he's "stolen" a QB with a 2nd round pick is the fool that didn't see what every other team did.

More SBs have been won with 1st round QBs than every other round and UDFA combined.

If you want a QB who profiles as something other than a backup, there's really little point to take shots in the middle-late rounds. Pick early or go home.

Choosing Brees has nothing to do with anything except for he's one of the QB's you mentioned ****face.

Cam Newton on NFL Network talking about frustration of throwing to new receivers and Gabbert is the stupid one for not throwing at the combine. ROFL @ you guys.

Agree....Plus, theres enough film on most of these guys already to form a valid Pro opinion of him.

I have to think Mallett acutally helped himself by throwing at the combine. IF Gabbert was able to go out there and light it up like Mallett did, and I don't think he can, then he would have probably moved himself up into consideration for the top pick in the draft. So if you got it there is good reason to flaunt it.

If?

Gabbert, Newton, Mallet, and Locker can throw any and all of the passes.

Gabbert is already regarded as the #1 QB prospect of this draft. What does he need to prove to scouts?