Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7581432)

First off.....what I'm getting from all of this is that a majority of the people who voted "**** yeah!" would be happy because it showed that Pioli isn't satisfied with the QB position (starter or depth). It also would show that he had the balls to take a QB in the 1st round.....Cassel or no Cassel.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7581432)

Second off.....anyone who starts a thread advocating that we trade Dorsey so that we can draft a #2 WR.....shouldn't be calling people reeruns. Seriously dude.....go **** yourself.

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 7581823)

I don't have a problem with taking a QB in round 1. If you wanted this to be about getting a QB in round 1, you should have said so. YOU DIDN'T SAY A QB, YOU SAID CK. I have a problem with CK in round 1. He's a huge project and is not worth the 21st pick, especially to us because he really doesn't fit what we are trying to do. Haley doesn't want a running QB. If you think CK is worth the pick for the Chiefs, you are an ear biter. Not a good fit.



In a scenario that we could trade Dorsey (which we can't) for Julio Jones and a few picks, we could benefit in value. There is a large drop off in talent at the WR spot after Julio. Julio fits the system and provides value in the pick.

5 techs are not normally hard to find and they are not normally difference makers for the defense. There positional value is lower, especially in Haley's offense.

A great WR provides much more value in Haley's system than a 5 tech.

If you can't see that, then you are an IDIOT.

I said at the first of my post that I didn't refer to the trade chart and that it could be more or less in compensation in picks.

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 7581406)

Long story short, you would be happy with CK at 21.



Maybe not thrilled, but happy. That's fine. That's your opinion. Stand on it. Don't be a p***y and dance around it. You maybe right. He might turn out to be a great player.

No one really knows. This is the draft. It is a crap shoot. Even the best ones really mess it up. Belichek (please don't correct my spelling b/c I don't care) passed on Clay Matthews twice.

I don't agree with you on CK. I think picking him with #21 is a bad value because of the risk. I also don't think he fits our offense very well. The Chiefs are looking for a QB that can win the game from the pocket.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7581860)

Ear biter? So I'm Mike Tyson?

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 7581823)

Haley doesn't want a running QB. If you think CK is worth the pick for the Chiefs, you are an ear biter. Not a good fit.



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What do you mean by running QB? Are you talking about guys like Gabbert, Newton, and Locker that all run very well? What NFL offense is built around a QB running the ball?

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7581893)

Yes, I'd be happy.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7581893)

Last year the Broncos took Tebow in the late first. Same story.

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 7581852)

Shanahan uses a mobile QB. Gailey could install a pistol package for him. Excuse running. I was referring more to a mobile QB vs a pocket QB. Haley prefers a pocket QB.

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 7581913)

At least you grew some nuts.

So, are you endorsing the donks pick of Tebow in the first round??? You do don't you. Tell the truth you coward.

Originally Posted by HotRoute (Post 7581925)

The real story is what qb pioli takes with the 199th pick we have. We all know his history with that selection (tom brady)