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Titty Meat 07-22-2011 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7764673)
there are some that would ask you the same thing

Who's washed up?

SAUTO 07-22-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7764680)
Who's washed up?

well there have been a TON of people tell you that franklin isnt worth signing. and he's done when he gets paid.


he was absolutely DOMINATED by weigman( a washed up guy in your opinion) in that game.

Titty Meat 07-22-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7764697)
well there have been a TON of people tell you that franklin isnt worth signing. and he's done when he gets paid.


he was absolutely DOMINATED by weigman( a washed up guy in your opinion) in that game.

1 game doesn't define a players season and as BossChief pointed if theres anyone who can motivate Franklin it would be Romeo. I'll defer to Pioli and Romeo's judgement on Franklin. If they don't think they can motivate him to play then he's not worth signing.

Regarding Williams: He's 39 and is facing a suspension this year. I don't see how that helps. Defensive Nose Tackle is should be a priority for this team once free agency begins.

SAUTO 07-22-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7764710)
1 game doesn't define a players season and as BossChief pointed if theres anyone who can motivate Franklin it would be Romeo. I'll defer to Pioli and Romeo's judgement on Franklin. If they don't think they can motivate him to play then he's not worth signing.

Regarding Williams: He's 39 and is facing a suspension this year. I don't see how that helps. Defensive Nose Tackle is should be a priority for this team once free agency begins.

he's been facing that same suspension for SEVERAL years. nothing has come of it

Titty Meat 07-22-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7764725)
he's been facing that same suspension for SEVERAL years. nothing has come of it

Because it went to court. They finally made a ruling in April.


http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articl...lliams/4641763

BossChief 07-22-2011 04:36 PM

So, the case got decided while the lockout was in effect?

Titty Meat 07-22-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7764767)
So, the case got decided while the lockout was in effect?

Yes in April. Why wouldn't they?

Titty Meat 07-22-2011 05:52 PM

I'll throw another name out there who's underrated: Anthony Adams. I doubt he'll command a huge salary but he's a pretty good player.

BossChief 07-22-2011 05:57 PM

I was just asking because I still think it would be bogus as hell for the NFL to be able to punish players for their actions while they were told they didn't work for them till a new deal is agreed upon.

If the courts punishment of the player causes him to miss team functions of some sort, that's a different story...but if a player is "laid off" he shouldn't be punished for his actions when he wasn't an employee.

Jmo

CoMoChief 07-22-2011 05:58 PM

Sign him and Franklin.....hey we got the money, and we need depth at that position.

Reaper16 07-22-2011 06:09 PM

Shit yeah. You can't lean on him, but he's a great fit in a NT rotation (which is pretty much what we have, or should aspire to, since we don't have a true starting-caliber NT).

Titty Meat 07-22-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7764915)
I was just asking because I still think it would be bogus as hell for the NFL to be able to punish players for their actions while they were told they didn't work for them till a new deal is agreed upon.

If the courts punishment of the player causes him to miss team functions of some sort, that's a different story...but if a player is "laid off" he shouldn't be punished for his actions when he wasn't an employee.

Jmo

My understanding is the whole thing was a bunch of legal bullshit that i'm not even going attempt to read or understand because as we've seen this week/month they're all ****ing pricks.

JohnnyV13 07-22-2011 06:29 PM

Clayton,

In the "3 free agents" thread, I already made the case for signing Pat Williams, probably more than a week ago.

BossChief 07-22-2011 06:30 PM

FTR

Williams (without a suspension) would be a better option for us going forward IMO than Franklin would.

I doubt very highly that he has more than one good season left (and another one after that of average to below average quality) but he would help our defense immensely in the regular and post season.

I still think there will be better options that hit the open market before this is all said and done. We haven't even seen the vet cuts yet.

Pat could probably help Powe transition as well. Quality vet run plugger.

Seems a little like a Tractor Traylor type pickup by the early pats.

milkman 07-22-2011 08:46 PM

I still think that Chris Hoke, as things stnd right now, is the best option on the market.


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