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JD10367 08-19-2011 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 7835163)
When they showed it on TV, I was watching Live and slowed it down from the end zone view (QB View) it looked as though thier helmets collided to me.

This. Helmet-to-helmet. End of story.

DBOSHO 08-19-2011 07:21 AM

The nfl needs a new commissioner who isnt such a pussy. If that happened to us(hypothetical) in the first round of the playoffs, with the other team down 6 with a minute left and we got that call, i would ****ing explode.

DBOSHO 08-19-2011 07:24 AM

On a side note, im really suprised belichick didnt make chad change his name back to johnson.

Molitoth 08-19-2011 07:25 AM

Clean hit, let them play.

JD10367 08-19-2011 07:27 AM

It was a helmet-to-helmet (problem 1). The guy led with the crown of his helmet as if spearing (problem 2). The receiver could be determined to be defenseless (problem 3). Thus, there are probably three different penalties they could've called.

I liked the hit. It was a football hit. It was a manly hit. It reminded me of the old days. But the rules are the rules. This is the game as it's played today. If that video was grainy and from the 70s, it would've been awesome, but in the 21st century it'll get called a penalty, whether we like it or not.

loochy 08-19-2011 08:20 AM

Hell, even if it was illegal, I say it was worth the penalty to get a hit on that douchebag.

Backwards Masking 08-19-2011 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 7835219)
The nfl needs a new commissioner who isnt such a pussy. If that happened to us(hypothetical) in the first round of the playoffs, with the other team down 6 with a minute left and we got that call, i would ****ing explode.

This x 1000. I'm severely disappointed in all my fellow planateers defending the call here. 10-15 years ago NOBODY would have accepted this. Everyone realize the refs definition of "defenseless" is as open to interpretation as judging a painting in a museum right? Yeah, I know "there's a clear set of rules that make the defintion crystal clear". Anyone who thinks the definition will be applied equally without bias or fuck up across all 32 teams in the league throughout an entire season is in severe denial, and must not have watched football in the last 5-10 years, especially the Goodell era.

Frazod 08-19-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 7835298)
Hell, even if it was illegal, I say it was worth the penalty to get a hit on that douchebag.

This. Legal or not, I enjoyed it. :D

|Zach| 08-19-2011 04:56 PM

Bump for hilarity.

ToxSocks 08-19-2011 04:58 PM

When I first saw that play It almost seemed like Brady hung him out to dry on purpose just to send him a message.

"This is my team, ****er, and I will kill you."

Joe Seahawk 08-19-2011 05:02 PM

twitter.com/#!/ochocinco


@Mason_Foster great hit last night,if u're fined I'll reimburse u boss.That's the way the game should b played.Stay healthy n have a good yr

Aries Walker 08-19-2011 05:47 PM

From the NFL films video linked by Just Passin' By: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos...ts-of-emphasis. This video very clearly explains rules changes for this year, 2011.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1:18
It is illegal to hit a defenseless player in the head or neck area with the helmet, face mask, forearm, or shoulder, or to make contact with the crown or forehead hairline parts of the helmet to any part of his body. Players in a defenseless posture [include, among others] a receiver in the act of making a catch, or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner.

The ref ruled Ochocinco as "defenseless" because he was in the act of making a catch. That said, being defenseless does not mean that any hit on him is automatically illegal. The illegal hits on a defenseless player are, as stated in the video and transcribed above:

a) [Helmet/Face Mask/Forearm/Shoulder] vs. [Head or Neck],
or
b) [Crown or Forehead of the Helmet] vs. [Anything].

This is the first of those cases. Foster used either his shoulder or his head to hit Ochocinco in the head while Ochocinco was defenseless, and therefore, yes, it was an illegal hit. It may also be the second of the cases, but I couldn't tell which part of Foster's helmet hit Ochocinco.

So MagicHef was right. Smed1065 was not.

Mr. Flopnuts 08-19-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk (Post 7836842)
twitter.com/#!/ochocinco


@Mason_Foster great hit last night,if u're fined I'll reimburse u boss.That's the way the game should b played.Stay healthy n have a good yr

Love it. Mason is off to a ggreat start in the preseason. Love them dawgs1

threebag 08-19-2011 08:37 PM

Expressed written consent of the NFL?

Demonpenz 08-19-2011 09:21 PM

I think kids these days should be taught to tackle not just hit. If he tries to tackle ocho right there instead of going to blast him Chad doesn't catch the ball and it is legal.


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