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Oh Snap 09-11-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 7898316)
Cassel passes have always sailed. He's a shit Qb plain and simple.

dis sho am good.

Yea, cassel has never been a great passer. He had a few good games against sub par opponents last year. But he also cost us a few games last year with some questionable throws.

shocked 09-11-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 7898283)
look here phaggot, I never said that teams should go strictly free agency while ****ing away with the draft.

The fact is, drafting alone, in our current state and our unique situation..is not enough for this team... ya dirty bitch.

Except the Chiefs havent just drafted.

Gaither, Breston, Gregg, and McClain. Good players. Nott to high priced.

ILChief 09-11-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 7898234)
No I didn't say that at all. I can still hope for the best, but that does't mean I will have confidence that they can do it until they have atleast shown a tad bit of promise of being able to do so.

I can't remember any QB the Chiefs have aquired through the draft and have atleast developed even into a decent backup QB, let alone a shitty starter.

Hey, Croyle was a shitty starter!

Oh Snap 09-11-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 7898323)

Hey dumbass, the Chiefs aren't the only team in the NFL. If your only understanding of football comes solely from what happens here -- then you simply do not follow football.

Derp.

You're right, im sorry...I wont make the mistake of discussing anything chiefs related while posting on a chiefs forum

lets be real tea, you dont make up the rules here. Ill discuss whatever the **** I feel like. Ill even call you a goddamned reerun just for the hell of it too. you mad?

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Then wtf *are* you saying? Cause it sounds like you want high priced FAs. Sorry, but that won't build you a quality franchise.
Youre so lost. I pointed out a unique situation during the vermiel era in a subsequent post..reading comprehension most suck for you.

Oh Snap 09-11-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 7898349)
Except the Chiefs havent just drafted.

Gaither, Breston, Gregg, and McClain. Good players. Nott to high priced.

I agree. However, gaither was injured, gregg is old, and mcclain is meh.

shocked 09-11-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 7898374)
You're right, im sorry...I wont make the mistake of discussing anything chiefs related while posting on a chiefs forum

Recognizing that the Chiefs are 1/32 franchises in the NFL =/= never taking about the Chiefs

...sort of like how...

Not pursuing high priced Free Agents =/= not signing any Free Agents


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Youre so lost. I pointed out a unique situation during the vermiel era in a subsequent post..reading comprehension most suck for you.
How old are you?

Micjones 09-11-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 7898316)
Cassel passes have always sailed. He's a shit Qb plain and simple.

I'm going to reserve judgment.

Oh Snap 09-11-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 7898397)
Recognizing that the Chiefs are 1/32 franchises in the NFL =/= never taking about the Chiefs

This is a really bizarre sequence of posts by you, where you falsely presume a position of which I never stated. try harder...

notorious 09-11-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 7898404)
I'm going to reserve judgment.

Sarcasm?



If Cassel hasn't convinced you that he is horrible, then you a bigger homer then KnowMo ever was.

tredadda 09-11-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7897989)
we're pissing in the wind until we draft and groom a first round QB...nothing else matters

That won't happen. The team drafted one in the first round in 1983 and he turned out to be a bust so now they are gun shy about doing it again. I guess they figure that drafting late round "gems" or picking up QB's that other teams did not want for a reason is they key to success even though 28 years after Blackledge we are still clamoring for a QB and a playoff win. The only ones we had were with Montana on his last legs, but players like him rarely hit the market and the only reason why he did was because of Steve Young.

tredadda 09-11-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 7898138)
That's not how you build a quality team. How many high priced FAs did Pioli grab in NE? His FA were moderate signings or guys off the scrap heap.

How many does PIT get? Indy?

Gaither, Gregg, and Breston aren't bad moves.

Stop pissing and moaning based on one game.


What do all these teams have in common? Oh yeah and elite franchise QB. Amazing how they change the dynamics of a football team. We can't do that because we have to keep babying Cassel and cover up every flaw he has.

Messier 09-11-2011 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 7900362)
That won't happen. The team drafted one in the first round in 1983 and he turned out to be a bust so now they are gun shy about doing it again. I guess they figure that drafting late round "gems" or picking up QB's that other teams did not want for a reason is they key to success even though 28 years after Blackledge we are still clamoring for a QB and a playoff win. The only ones we had were with Montana on his last legs, but players like him rarely hit the market and the only reason why he did was because of Steve Young.

Pioli and Haley don't care about 1983. So unless there's some mandate handed down from the Hunt family about no first round QB's the fact the last one was a bust shouldn't matter.

I almost want the 1st overall pick just because it would force the Chiefs hand.

RealSNR 09-11-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7897896)
I do think the whole team looked unprepared. I was shocked at how bad we tackled today.

The funny thing is people are already going to start calling for Stanzi. I don't know. If this team is going to look THIS unprepared he's probably going to get killed in there. But we'll see.

I don't see it. Killed? By what? Is Richardson going to stab him in the locker room?

The funny thing is Cassel had not bad (not good either, but still) protection from the offensive line. If Stanzi had that, what makes you think he'd get "killed"? What would kill him? Defenders? Why would Stanzi get killed by defenders and not Cassel?

Imon Yourside 09-11-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 7898217)
Cassel needs to be bagging groceries. At this point I wouldn't even call him a legitimate back up.

50 mil says that'll never happen, unless he lives the life of Charlie Sheen.

tredadda 09-11-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 7900391)
Pioli and Haley don't care about 1983. So unless there's some mandate handed down from the Hunt family about no first round QB's the fact the last one was a bust shouldn't matter.

I almost want the 1st overall pick just because it would force the Chiefs hand.

Carl wasn't around for 1983 either, yet he never drafted a 1st round QB. What signs has Pioli given that he is different. I fear that the Tom Brady syndrome will go to his head. I do agree and hope we draft #1 overall so his hand is forced.


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