except for the offense was ok with Weis+Cassel

He wasn't ruining his reputation.

putting up with douchebag Haley, that's a different story.

I blame him for changing OC's every year.

that's not an excuse for Cassels poor play, but three different people in three years doesn't do him any favors.

...looks like zorn has had zero impact.

that said, if haley feels he has a bullseyes on his back, it's done....and we are right back to where we started before and after Herm.


...and that friggin sucks.

Do people actually pay for this garbage? Seriously?

First, I will give credit to Cassel in that Bowe let one go through his hands. But there was no excuse for the one that was high and behind Urban. That was all on Cassel. Nor does any of this excuse Cassel's inaccuracy to Dex down the sideline, Bowe having to come back for an under thrown (somewhat) deep ball, or all the check downs that are a sign of a scared QB.

Get a freakin' clue. Cassel sucks. He is not an NFL caliber QB. We need to stop accepting mediocrity. The most important position on a football team is the QB. This team will never truly turn the corner until that position is seriously addressed.

I was at 2 of those games and personally witnessed Cassel's ineptitude. Against both the Ravens and Bills, Cassel had receivers open that he didn't see. He played scared/stupid. So don't feed us that BS excuse. Because that's all it is, an excuse.

Cassel was still very bad last year. He made the Pro-Bowl with his TD-Int ratio and backing into the playoffs with an easy schedule. If you watch Cassel play, he will consistently have you on the edge of your seat pissed off at his decisions, but usually after the game, if you look as his stat sheet... he doesn't look as terrible. He's actually somewhat of a magician.

Anyone using the eye test can see that Cassel is terrible at reading the defense and calling audibles, terrible at looking off receivers and manipulating the defense, and very good at sh*tting his pants at even the slightest amount of pocket pressure.

The threat of Charles and our ground game opened up the secondary last year for Cassel to squeeze by throwing some TD's here and there that any Starting QB in the league could have thrown (Minus Alex Smith). Too many of you are satisfied with mediocracy.

He's not excusing Cassel... He's pointing out who ran the offense.

And, in turn, excusing the offensive woes under Cassel after Charlie left.

... You make no sense.

nice of you to read my mind and let everyone know what i was thinking.


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THIS!

some people cannot handle more than one concept at once.

For example, Lzen cannot fathom supporting a coach and yet still not liking certain aspects of the coaching.

Numerous people on this board can't not comprehend more than one problem for our offense.

1. Cassel is a problem
2. The problem of Cassel is made worse by our shitty offensive coaching


They refuse to even acknowledge problem #2 because they are scared to death that it will lead to ignoring problem #1.

I want both problems addressed because i don't want our shitty offensive coaches to develop(and likely ruin) any QBoTF.

That's only two problems...what about the shitty offensive line and the lack of quality receivers and an old worn out starting tailback and a munchkin second string tailback.......AND THAT'S ONLY THE OFFENSE. The number of problems on defense are at least as great.

I've been pleasantly surprised by the Oline. I expected them to get their shit pushed in against Detroit but we were running all over them... even Jones was running for 8+ yards at times.

We have plenty of receivers... we lack TE's.

The problem with the offense is Matt Cassel. He is a worthless piece of shit end of story. The offensive line has looked pretty good this year so far. McClain and Jones can be okay for the running game and a legit QB would be fine with our WRs. Hell Bowe has put up big numbers with Huard, Thigpen and Cassel as his QBs. That should tell you something there.

2008 - Named AFC Offensive Player of the Week for Week 7 with a 136.3 passer rating

- Named AFC Offensive Player of the Week for Week 12 after throwing for 415 yards and three touchdowns

- Became the fifth player in NFL history to have back-to-back 400-yard passing games

- In the Patriots' 41-7 victory over the Broncos on Oct. 20, his 136.3 passer rating ranks as the 10th best mark by a Patriots quarterback

- Became the first player to total at least 400 passing yards and at least 60 rushing yards in a game

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Maybe its not Matt Cassel? He seemed to do OK with the Patriots. He wasn't even the worst QB in Week 2. Had a higher QB rating than Cam Newton, Jay Cutler and Kerry Collins:

#32 Luke McCown
#31 Kerry Collins
#30 Jay Cutler
#29 Cam Newton
#28 Matt Cassel
#22 Kyle Orton
#10 Phillip Rivers
#2 Jason Campbell