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DeezNutz 01-10-2012 04:36 PM

When Clark took over, his stated priority was to draft and develop a QB.

In yesterday's presser, he said we needed to draft well and retain our home-grown talent. No mention of QB.

Clark can go **** himself.

Caseyguyrr 01-10-2012 04:38 PM

hes a hypocrite, and ruining the franchise

durtyrute 01-10-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8283398)
No.... I'm blaming Clark for shit he's done since he's been here. Shit that just so happens to mirror what happened before he was here. I don't understand why you can't see the difference.

Since Clark took over, the Chiefs have went 27-53. In the 5 years before that, the Chiefs were 47-33. You sure you would prefer the last 5 years of Clark?

I do see the difference, but that doesn't have shit to do with what is going on this year right now. If we come out next year with Casselvania as our QB and no other plans (Stanzi being ready or a QB this year) then I will agree, but it hasn't even happened yet and people are flipping out.

And yes I would take this five over the previous five. At the end of the previous five, we had to blow the whole thing up. We don't have to do that this time.

Epic Fail 007 01-10-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 8282474)
Matt Cassel alone is enough to warrant the Pioli hate.

Cassel was the only option at the time!:banghead:Get off that argument its lame

Fish 01-10-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8283417)
I do see the difference, but that doesn't have shit to do with what is going on this year right now. If we come out next year with Casselvania as our QB and no other plans (Stanzi being ready or a QB this year) then I will agree, but it hasn't even happened yet and people are flipping out.

And yes I would take this five over the previous five. At the end of the previous five, we had to blow the whole thing up. We don't have to do that this time.

Again with the exceptions to the praise thread...

Has Clark shown you anything in the last 5 years that makes you think he's serious about drafting and developing a franchise QB? Just in the last 5 years since he's been here. He said he would do so when he took over. Why are you so sure he'll change in year 6? That's what's missing for me...

durtyrute 01-10-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8283445)
Again with the exceptions to the praise thread...

Has Clark shown you anything in the last 5 years that makes you think he's serious about drafting and developing a franchise QB? Just in the last 5 years since he's been here. He said he would do so when he took over. Why are you so sure he'll change in year 6? That's what's missing for me...

If you are in a postion to trade a second round pick for a qB that had an 89 something rating and a 10-5 record the year before, you do it. That takes up three years right there. Didn't we draft Brokie somewhere in there before that? They thought he was it, he wasn't, but they tried. They drafted Stanzi, he hasn't played but they did something.

I want what you want too, I'll give me a few more to show me something. If you choose not to thats cool.

Time to go home see you nuts in a few hours

whoman69 01-10-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8283417)
I do see the difference, but that doesn't have shit to do with what is going on this year right now. If we come out next year with Casselvania as our QB and no other plans (Stanzi being ready or a QB this year) then I will agree, but it hasn't even happened yet and people are flipping out.

And yes I would take this five over the previous five. At the end of the previous five, we had to blow the whole thing up. We don't have to do that this time.

It hasn't happened yet but everyone looking at the Chiefs and talking to them thinks Cassel will be back. There was even a thread stating Crennel believed he would be back. If you can find one source that has talked to people in the organization and says that he won't, let us know.

el borracho 01-10-2012 08:04 PM

We have no QB on the roster and are not in a position to get a QB. Explain to me how that gets fixed and I might feel better.

Spott 01-10-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 8282596)
I really don't care who's our coach, who's our QB, who's our GM, I just want to fucking start winning playoff games and get a Super Bowl before I die!!!

The sooner you accept the fact that it will never happen the better off you'll be.

Dayze 01-10-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8283795)
The sooner you accept the fact that it will never happen the better off you'll be.

Lol. This LMAO

Rasputin 01-10-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8283441)
Cassel was the only option at the time!:banghead:Get off that argument its lame

How in the world was Cassel the only option? There were plenty of options if they wern't hell bent on aquiring Cassel in the first place. He sure the **** didn't have to pay him elite money to go with him before he proved he ****ing sucked.

NJChiefsFan 01-10-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 8282970)
I can't really agree with you stance here. Matty Light did the electric slide into the Probowl last year. Then this year he played worse, got hurt, then we picked up Orton. What more could they have done this year. You couldn't cut Matt Castaway after he went to the Pro-Bowl.

I guess not even thinking about Stanzi made me think even more they are comfortable with Cassel. They could have just stayed with Orton to win short-term but I don't like that thinking.

I agree that this is the offseason that Cassel would be cut if Pioli knows what he is doing. Maybe its just all the years of not making the right decision, or the rumors that Pioli still likes Cassel. This team just hasn't shown me that they understand HOW important the QB is.

Again, I would LOVE to come back to these posts in 6 months and call you a prophet. It would make my year.

ShortRoundChief 01-10-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8283884)
I guess not even thinking about Stanzi made me think even more they are comfortable with Cassel. They could have just stayed with Orton to win short-term but I don't like that thinking.

I agree that this is the offseason that Cassel would be cut if Pioli knows what he is doing. Maybe its just all the years of not making the right decision, or the rumors that Pioli still likes Cassel. This team just hasn't shown me that they understand HOW important the QB is.

Again, I would LOVE to come back to these posts in 6 months and call you a prophet. It would make my year.

The final 3 games were a job interview, plain and simple. If he'd have played Stanzi he would probably not be the head coach.


There are 2 ways that you could argue this. The first being playing the rookie and giving him a chance to develop was best for the franchise, but most likely would have lost the guy they deemed to be the best fit as a head coach. The second being, we got the best fit at head coach and that's what's best for the franchise.

notorious 01-10-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 8282474)
Matt Cassel alone is enough to warrant the Pioli hate.

This.

Rasputin 01-10-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 8283786)
We have no QB on the roster and are not in a position to get a QB. Explain to me how that gets fixed and I might feel better.

We can pick a QB in this years draft, let him duke it out with Stanzi. Go back next year in the draft and pick another QB so we can get better odds of grasping one through the draft. We have neglected the QB spot in the draft for three decades so that is where we are now and paying for it with playoff inaptude.


The new rookie cap space will allow us to take chances on QBs in the draft & build a program to develop them or get value from having them play a season. You can not aquire too much tallent for compitition at the most key positions.


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