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BigMeatballDave 02-26-2012 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8400112)
Routt with crennel and Emmitt Thomas will get better.
Dude. He's 29. He's reached his ceiling. That doesn't mean I think he sucks.

milkman 02-26-2012 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8400226)
Dude. He's 29. He's reached his ceiling. That doesn't mean I think he sucks.
I don't that's necessarily true.

Good coaching can bring out more in players, even at this stage, than they've shown before, and ET is one of the best in the business.

notorious 02-26-2012 03:35 PM
Tag him and bag h....err trade him.

Simplicity 02-26-2012 03:36 PM
Peyton Manning.

tredadda 02-26-2012 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8400214)
Wonder what JJ would give in the way of draft picks for Carr?
1. The franchise amount if we franchise tag Carr

2. Nothing. As he will be available for free in FA

BigMeatballDave 02-26-2012 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8400240)
I don't that's necessarily true.

Good coaching can bring out more in players, even at this stage, than they've shown before, and ET is one of the best in the business.
But Flowers has reached his?

Simplicity 02-26-2012 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8400275)
But Flowers has reached his?
What are you trying to question?

007 02-26-2012 03:57 PM
Welp, he's gone.

tredadda 02-26-2012 04:00 PM
The smart move is to sign Bowe as his value on the market is less in comparison to Carr. With us having Routt, Carr is more expendable for us, but of more value to other teams like the Cowboys. We could try a sign and trade with Dallas though if that is possible. I would then trade Carr to Dallas (maybe a first this year and second next year). Then give Stl our high 1st and Dallas's high 1st. Then give them our second this year and next along with our 2013 1st and Dallas's 2013 2nd for the #2 pick. STL cleans up with two firsts this year (both in top 15), two 2nds this year and two 1sts and 2nds next year as well. We get the #2 pick this year and then our draft from round 3 on. Then we get rounds 2 on next year, so we lose very few picks.

007 02-26-2012 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8400297)
The smart move is to sign Bowe as his value on the market is less in comparison to Carr. With us having Routt, Carr is more expendable for us, but of more value to other teams like the Cowboys. We could try a sign and trade with Dallas though if that is possible. I would then trade Carr to Dallas (maybe a first this year and second next year). Then give Stl our high 1st and Dallas's high 1st. Then give them our second this year and next along with our 2013 1st and Dallas's 2013 2nd for the #2 pick. STL cleans up with two firsts this year (both in top 15), two 2nds this year and two 1sts and 2nds next year as well. We get the #2 pick this year and then our draft from round 3 on. Then we get rounds 2 on next year, so we lose very few picks.
Tell me again why Carr would agree to that.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-26-2012 04:03 PM
He'd be a 2 time Pro Bowler already with a Star on his helmet.

Mr. Laz 02-26-2012 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8400300)
Tell me again why Carr would agree to that.
I think he means Tag and Trade

Carr really wouldn't have a choice

007 02-26-2012 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8400303)
I think he means Tag and Trade

Carr really wouldn't have a choice
I figured that is probably what he meant but I don't believe the chiefs are going to tag him.

tredadda 02-26-2012 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8400300)
Tell me again why Carr would agree to that.
That is why I said if it is possible. I am throwing ideas out there that allow us to trade up, without trading the farm for it.

Mr. Laz 02-26-2012 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8400307)
I figured that is probably what he meant but I don't believe the chiefs are going to tag him.
maybe they won't ... dunno

but with all the WR's on the market they just might

Tag Carr and let Bowe walk

We then have a rather large pool of WR's to look at in FA. Maybe Bowe will even come back if he doesn't get the Larry Fitzgerald money he's apparently looking for.

The tag is about getting draft picks back for a guy who might leave imo.

a top CB is worth more in FA this year and will get us more in return.


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