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Originally Posted by Molitoth
(Post 8714021)
Gadzooks,
Thanks for listening! I love hearing people's different takes that bring up discussions!
Thanks for the compliment on the production. For my second song, I think I did a decent job on it. I hope to continually get better, especially at vocal quality.
Justin and I listened to the Northern Pikes song (something we've never heard of before).
The only thing I noticed about the track that I could find similar was the guitar delay. As you know, delay just comes from a pedal, which many guitarists use... so stumbling across a tone that sounds similar this day and age is bound to happen. You can find the same similar style when listening to Tool, Rishloo, Karnivool, and other prog rock bands. (These are more along the lines of our influence)
Blatantly stealing riffs is a no-no. I doubt any bands really do it on purpose, and if that was the case, they are lame. As far as hitting on something that has never been done before... We just play whatever comes out of our instruments that sounds cool to us. I doubt we (and 99% of all bands) ever do something that hasn't been done before. Typically when something hasn't been done before, its when different genres of music are blended. We are all typical prog rock fans, so we pretty much stick to that genre.
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First of all, Thanks for taking the time to listen to the example and attempt to analyze my point. I’m not sure how serious you guys are about the band but I think you have the potential to make money through the limited remaining resources, (i.e. Publishing, Internet Sales, touring etc…), although, this kind of output is not going to cut it.
I'm very familiar with the bands mentioned above. I was the lead guitarist and main songwriter for a touring act in the 90's that gained prominent interest from the major labels and the larger independents.
At the time, most of the A & R people were asking us to change to a metal/rap vibe before they would sign us, (Limp Bizkit, and RATM were popular at the time), and we told them to go **** themselves. The other offers were just shitty deals, (At least we knew the difference, and many poor suckers didn’t).
I referred to the Northern Pikes song to point out that the song is basically a dirge. The song is missing the dynamics of what I think you're looking for. There are several opportunities in the song to move to something that will captivate the listener but, rather than picking it up, you go softer. If you look at it from this perspective rather than the guitar effects you might solve my riddle.
If the idea was to have a solid Funeral March you’ve done a very good job. If the idea was to write a song that would captivate the listener… Meh.
Every band has their slower pieces. Most of the smarter ones find an opportunity to use dynamics to keep the listener interested. (BTW- If I were you, I would never play this song live unless you want to wake up the audience when it’s over).
I don’t mean to be harsh, and as I said I don’t know how seriously you or your band are taking this. I’m just being realistic. You guys obviously have talent but I know it’s hard, when you’re in a band, to be completely objective. If you guys are willing to take constructive criticism and work on it, I think you could have a bright future.