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BossChief 05-11-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8608227)
FYP

Plus arm

RealSNR 05-11-2012 09:30 AM

Also, I miss Mike Cox :(

Coogs 05-11-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8608437)
Seemingly not even trying. Just dump offs one after another. Games 1 & 2 didn't look too bright. But 3 was much better.

It's amazing how people can watch the same thing, and come away with two totally different viewpoints. I saw Stanzi trying to go down the field on multiple occasions... sometimes before the receiver broke open. I saw Stanzi busting his ass to make plays with both his feet and arm. I'd take the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th plays of the game for Stanzi vs Baltimore any day of the week.

ToxSocks 05-11-2012 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8608577)
It's amazing how people can watch the same thing, and come away with two totally different viewpoints. I saw Stanzi trying to go down the field on multiple occasions... somethimes before the receiver broke open. I saw Stanzi busting his ass to make plays with both his feet and arm. I'd take the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th plays of the game for Stanzi vs Baltimore any day of the week.

This.

These were his first preseason games after having the playbook for what, 2 weeks? People, wtf are you expecting?

His timing is going to be off.

He's going to miss open WR's....especially if he's running for his life.

His anticipation is going to be off.

I mean ****....he's playing with 3rd stringers who he barely freaking met. JFC people.

And to the people who say he has a noodle arm.....seriously? **** off. You don't know what you're talking about. He throws a very catchable ball with good velocity. Stafford he is not, but his arm is more than adequate.

His floor looks like a good back up....his ceiling? Who knows, but he has the tools, and the guy plays like a winner. He's constantly looking downfield and he's not afraid to thread the needle.

He needs reps, reps and more reps.

Rausch 05-11-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8608595)

His floor looks like a good back up....his ceiling? Who knows, but he has the tools, and the guy plays like a winner. He's constantly looking downfield and he's not afraid to thread the needle.

He needs reps, reps and more reps.

Completely agree.

Just like Asamoah, Hudson, Houston, Charles and numerous others stepped in and replaced vet starters it's time to look forward at QB.

That's how it works. Your depth/rookies push vets for their jobs and eventually replace them.

It's time to look at what we have behind C@$$#ole...

philfree 05-11-2012 10:05 AM

Stanzi never really had a chance in those games so it's hard to get much out of watching those vids. He did throw a nice TD. This year we'll get to learn alot more. Of course he'll have more time with the playbook(yeah I know it's a new one) and our backup O linemen will be better. He'll probably have a real chance to go through a progression.

Coogs 05-11-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8608631)
Stanzi never really had a chance in those games so it's hard to get much out of watching those vids. He did throw a nice TD. This year we'll get to learn alot more. Of course he'll have more time with the playbook(yeah I know it's a new one) and our backup O linemen will be better. He'll probably have a real chance to go through a progression.

What you could see is potential. Now granted, there have been a lot of players over the years who show potential and never make it, but he does show he might have it.

Chiefnj2 05-11-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8608577)
It's amazing how people can watch the same thing, and come away with two totally different viewpoints. I saw Stanzi trying to go down the field on multiple occasions... sometimes before the receiver broke open. I saw Stanzi busting his ass to make plays with both his feet and arm. I'd take the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th plays of the game for Stanzi vs Baltimore any day of the week.

That's exactly what I thought when I read his comment. Not trying?

Haley messed up. He didn't have the team prepared for the preseason. When Cassel got hurt in the 4th game, he panicked. I guarantee Cassel broke some ribs on that hit. That's why Haley didn't give Stanzi any reps in the 4th game. They thought Palko would have to go week 1 and gave him all the snaps the rest of that game. Palko knew the playbook better than Stanzi so Haley went with him despite the obvious differences in physical skill sets.

saphojunkie 05-11-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8608477)
Interesting that at least half of the posts in this thread involve the offensive line. And yet, all I heard prior to the draft was how irrelevant the offensive line is in "today's game." ROFL Anybody who thought that, wrote that or even entertained that idea is as dumb as dirt and should be castrated immediately.

Stanzi may end up being a terrific QB, but who will ever know if he's running for his f'ing life?

Yes, we'd all love to have an Andrew Luck on our roster, but that's not how the real world works. KC's best play right now is to develop what we have at QB, protect the shit out of them, and get the ground game going. With the defense we should have, that should be enough to get us to the playoffs.

I guarantee no one in the Chiefs backfield thought #11 was too high to draft a guard.

And I, for one, was disappointed in the Donald Stephenson pick. I wanted an impact contributor in the third round. However, watching these videos made me realize just how important OL depth is. Without it, how are you ever going to evaluate your backup QB in the preseason? And that isn't an insignificant job. Makes me happy to think that the second quarter of the preseason games might not be comprised solely of one yard rushes and sacks.

Urc Burry 05-11-2012 11:33 AM

Stanzi drew comparisons to Brady coming out
Worked with Brady's throwing coach
Changed his number to 12
Rode the bench a year
Has a white boy #83 to throw to

The pieces of the puzzle are coming together

aturnis 05-11-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8608849)
Stanzi drew comparisons to Brady coming out
Worked with Brady's throwing coach
Changed his number to 12
Rode the bench a year
Has a white boy #83 to throw to

The pieces of the puzzle are coming together

Well, technically he didn't "change" his number to 12, he changed it back to 12. Brodie Croyle already had Stanzi's number when he got to town, so he took 13.

Titty Meat 05-11-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8608464)
Beat me to it.

So about 90% of the players drafted and free agents who signed with teams didn't have playbooks.

BigMeatballDave 05-11-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8608886)
So about 90% of the players drafted and free agents who signed with teams didn't have playbooks.

The point is other rookie QBs who played last season, did.

Stanzi did not.

Chiefnj2 05-11-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8608465)
Have to disagree Stanzi flashed a bit on maybe 3-4 plays in 3 games he wasn't ready at all then. Palko out played him. That said he has had a year and I hope he gets a shot the preseason to show what he can do. It shouldn't take much to unseat Cassel.

Can you provide a link to anything where Palko played well?

Coogs 05-11-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8608886)
So about 90% of the players drafted and free agents who signed with teams didn't have playbooks.

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The Vikings were on the clock in the second round of the draft Friday night when the appeals court's ruling came down.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...stay-of-ruling

QB's with playbooks...

Newton
Locker
Gabbert
Ponder

QB's drafted about an hour before stay granted...

Dalton
Kaepernick

In a society with technology the way it is prior to the stay being granted, I am assuming they were sent a copy of the playbook by some method.


QB's drafted after the stay...

Mallett
Stanzi
Yates


Mallett and Stanzi don't see the field. Mallett dressed for 1 game, Stanzi not many more. Yates playing was pretty flukish.


So do you see where it may have been significant that 10% or so did get a playbook?


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