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Quesadilla Joe 06-23-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pedestrian (Post 8696569)
He should be, but I wonder how that works nowadays. Technically, they can't keep him in solitary because keeping someone that separated from other people for the rest of his life is becoming considered "cruel and unusual." OTOH, he would be in extreme danger if placed with anyone able to take him out. Would they have to recruit sympathizers to go in for visits? Would he just be in a small "protection" cell block that lets its prisoners out one at a time?

They would move him into an area of the jail that housed other pedos.

Phobia 06-23-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8696750)
I have...but everyone that talks about all this stuff really has no idea what they are actually talking about. Again not saying all this does not exist...but its like...I dont know anyone who knows shit about the reality of being in prison.

I'm not really interested enough to conduct any research on the matter. I'm guessing if you talked to freed prisoners they're probably not going to really want to break it down in detail. So my common sense answer is, it's not quite as bad as Hollywood would lead you to believe but it's not uncommon either.

|Zach| 06-23-2012 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8696764)
I'm not really interested enough to conduct any research on the matter. I'm guessing if you talked to freed prisoners they're probably not going to really want to break it down in detail. So my common sense answer is, it's not quite as bad as Hollywood would lead you to believe but it's not uncommon either.

Sounds about right.

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2012 12:57 AM

Civil suits should be coming against Penn State.

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2012 01:04 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--...il-suits-.html

BELLEFONTE, Pa. – Juror No. 4, the foreman, gray-haired and middle-aged, stood high in the back row of the jurors' box, looked down at some sheets of paper, then at Jerry Sandusky and began to deliver a verdict a long, sad time coming.
Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.
Of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse. Of indecent assault. Of endangering the welfare of children.
Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.
Of terrorizing the poorest and most vulnerable of this area's youth. Of abusing his fame as a former Penn State defensive coordinator. Of conducting a charade of charitable work to supposedly help children.
Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.
Forty-five times it rang out. Juror No. 4 hammered each one home with the independent force each one deserved.
There were just three charges Sandusky escaped on. After each of those not guilty counts, it seemed that the foreman raised his voice as he returned to this parade of guilty verdicts.

He seemed to make sure each count deserved its own moment to linger, to emphasize the torture and pain and shattered innocence it produced. Oral sex. Anal sex. Fondling. One despicable act worse than the next.
This here was a night of redemption, a predator laid bare with nowhere to hide, with no more lies to tell, with no one left to save him.
"Mr. Sandusky," Judge John Cleland said when this dramatic, nearly eight-minute condemnation was finally, fully read, "you have been found guilty by a jury of your peers."
Sandusky, clad in slacks and a brown sport coat, stood mostly motionless throughout, looking up at Juror 4 as the truth was slammed down onto him, as the light was finally and irrevocable cast on his behavior. His left hand was placed casually in his pocket while behind him his wife, Dottie, three adopted sons and an adopted daughter either shook their heads at the jury or openly wept.
Moments later Sandusky gave a quick wave to his family as he was led out sheriff's deputies. Judge Cleland will sentence him formally in about 90 days.

The 68-year-old faces up to 442 years behind bars, or what might as well be forever and ever and ever some more. His defense attorney, Joe Amendola, hinted at an appeal, but it likely would be fruitless.
On the other side of the courtroom, Victim No. 6, who as an 11 year-old in 1998 was abused by Sandusky in a Penn State locker room shower, an act that was investigated but never prosecuted, laid his head on the top of the bench in front of him and sobbed uncontrollably. He was soon hugging family members who had joined him.
"I'm just overwhelmed," he said, now a grown man, strong and no longer timid in the face of an old pathetic coach.

Soon reporters were racing out of the courthouse, set to break the news of the guilty verdict to a huge throng that had gathered on the steps. Dottie Sandusky was kneeling by then in front of her family, trying to provide comfort when the word of the verdict hit the masses.
The roaring cheers and screams of joy swept right through the courthouse door, up the stairs and into the second-floor courtroom. They startled Dottie, whose head snapped up at the noise and then sunk down as she realized the people of Centre County were celebrating her husband's demise.
Sandusky will be held at the local jail until he can be evaluated by the state prison system and assigned accordingly. He is expected to wind up in protective custody, away from the general population, for his own protection. That likely means 23 hours a day in a 6- by 8-foot cell. In other words, a concrete box of hell.
"He was prepared to go to jail tonight," Amendola said. "Mentally prepared. He's not scared. I think given the circumstances of the case and how the trial was going he knew this was coming.
"This is not a surprise. This is what everyone expected."
Amendola said Sandusky's one regret was not being able to "tell his story" from the witness stand. His 33-year-old adoptive son, Matt, determined during the trial that Jerry abused him as a child. He made himself available as a prosecution witness. Matt couldn't be called, however, unless the state had introduced the incidents on a cross-examination of Jerry Sandusky. It was too much for the defense to risk.
"Even though Jerry, Dottie and the other kids deny Matt's allegation, it would've been explosive," Amendola said. "There was no way Jerry could testify without Matt being called."

They walked Sandusky out the back door of the courthouse and to a waiting sheriff's vehicle, just 50 yards downhill from where they used to hang criminals in the courtyard of the old county jail.
Back then they'd invite as many people as they could fit to ring the gallows and bear witness. Those that couldn't gain admission would climb the roofs of local houses to watch the execution from high above in this old tightly packed, Victorian downtown.
That was the 1800s, but things haven't changed so much; just five miles from here, at the Rockville prison, is the state's execution chamber. And in Bellefonte tradition, a crowd gathered to jeer and scream Friday night behind the courthouse, to let their venom ring around Sandusky's head for eternity.
Happy Valley, indeed.

The verdict ended the fallacy that this was an area too devoted to Penn State football to render a fair and proper judgment. The anger at Sandusky was deeper than the outside world could fathom. There may have been a conspiracy to protect Sandusky in the highest levels of Penn State. That will be played out in legal proceedings against university officials, an independent investigation set for release next month and the inevitable slew of civil cases to come that will seek to tap into the school's $1.8 billion endowment.
None of that represents the rank and file here, not the good people who never hesitated to see Sandusky as a monster and were pained when he seemingly dragged the entire region's reputation down with him.
For at least 15 years Sandusky quietly stalked this idyllic, Rockwellian community, preying on its most susceptible boys. Using his Second Mile charity to meet at-risk kids, he often fostered relationships with the poor, the fatherless, the troubled or even simply the bored.
In one haunting bit of testimony, Victim No. 4 recounted that he compartmentalized the sexual abuse from Sandusky, and endured teasing from classmates who suspected something inappropriate because he had so few positives in his life. The chance to leave his little town and troubled home for afternoons hanging around the Penn State football program were enough, he testified.
"I thought, 'I didn't want to lose this. This is something good happening to me,' " he said.
This, time and again, is whom Sandusky chose to target, to trick, to molest, to injure forever. Under the camouflage of mentoring, he stripped them of their innocence and left them in a confused heap in an empty locker room or alone in a dark basement, used and discarded on some creepy waterbed.
During this trial a parade of victims overcame their own fear and embarrassment to detail, often with chilling testimony through sobs and gasped breath what Sandusky did to them. They uncovered a hidden side to this bucolic region, where not everyone is wealthy and educated and as pure as Penn State's famous white uniforms.
They also cried about regret. Victim No. 4, now 28, said he wished he'd summoned the courage to come forward sooner and save the younger victims. Victim No. 9's mother wept at the memories of sending her son, against his wishes, to stay with Sandusky because she believed he needed a positive male role model.
Former Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary noted that he didn't punch out Sandusky when he discovered him in a shower abusing a boy in 2001 and instead let his university bosses handle the case. Which they didn't. A former Penn State police detective conveyed his frustration at not being able to convince the then-district attorney to charge Sandusky in 1998.
On and on it went. Years and years and years. Incident and incident and incident.
Until finally, deep into a warm Friday night, Juror 4 stood up in that box, representing 11 other citizens that had pored over each and every allegation during 21 hours of deliberation, and read from those papers.
Finally, it was over for Sandusky. Finally, the deception and protection were gone. Finally, this once hulking man, backed by the prestige of Nittany Lion football, propped up by the illusion of charitable work, had nowhere to run, no tale to tell, no one capable of keeping him from facing the awful truth of his life.
Guilty. Guilty. Damn, Damn Guilty.

-King- 06-23-2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8696746)
I bet someone kills him by yr 2.

It happened to Dahmer.

I doubt he'll ever be around other prisoners.
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luv 06-23-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8696750)
I have...but everyone that talks about all this stuff really has no idea what they are actually talking about. Again not saying all this does not exist...but its like...I dont know anyone who knows shit about the reality of being in prison.

You're in a prison with other men. You're never getting out. I'd say it's probably different depending on the prison. My brother was in correctional facilities and jails, and he never worried much about it. I think that's probably due to the fact that none of the guys he was in there with were in there for more than a few years.

DJay23 06-23-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8696750)
I have...but everyone that talks about all this stuff really has no idea what they are actually talking about. Again not saying all this does not exist...but its like...I dont know anyone who knows shit about the reality of being in prison.

I was watching a series of prison "reality" programs last night and they interviewed inmates who talked about this stuff. They said murderers get the most respect among the inmates and those convicted of sexual crimes are viewed as weak and are often preyed upon to transfer contraband or for sexual favors.

Chiefnj2 06-23-2012 08:54 AM

The NCAA should sanction Penn State football for as many years as the University covered up the abuse x3.

BigMeatballDave 06-23-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8696897)
The NCAA should sanction Penn State football for as many years as the University covered up the abuse x3.

Actually, the NCAA has no grounds to sanction their program.

As disgusting as this is, it doesnt violate any rules, in this regard.

I suspect they will be paying 100s of millions of dollars out in Civil suits, though.

Chiefshrink 06-23-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 8696699)
They can't keep him from encountering others, in a prison that size. At some point in time, karma is going to catch the bastard, mark my words.

:thumb:

Veteran guards have their ways and don't think for a moment the head honcho who runs the prison wouldn't look the other way;)

Skyy God 06-23-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer| (Post 8696725)
So I have no actual knowledge of prisons. I understand all the jokes about butt ****ing and everything you hear about prison...I am obviously not saying it doesn't happen but as someone completely ignorant of that whole world who true to life are all the jokes that are always made.

How close to reality are the never ending butt sex prison jokes.

They recently changed rape reporting, and there are now roughly 200K+ cases per year.

I.e., it happens all the time.

Mr. Laz 06-23-2012 10:18 AM

i imagine they will put him in PC for his entire sentence.

solitary cell ... separate yard and chow time


someone might get him but a high profile name like him will be segregated most of the time

Brock 06-23-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8696897)
The NCAA should sanction Penn State football for as many years as the University covered up the abuse x3.

And if that doesn't work, send Roger Goodell after them.

Ebolapox 06-23-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8696985)
i imagine they will put him in PC for his entire sentence.

solitary cell ... separate yard and chow time


someone might get him but a high profile name like him will be segregated most of the time

didn't work for jeffrey dahmer, did it? he was as high profile as they came...


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