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ShowtimeSBMVP 07-08-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 8726527)
I think you'd have to list the Jets as a team paying top dollar for 2 corners.

Late last night, the New York Jets signed a four-year, $34 million deal, with cornerback Antonio Cromartie.


That's not top money Carr would have turned that down.

Brock 07-08-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8726529)
How did he nail it?

Carr got big time money from the Boys.
#1 corner money.

We have no idea what Pioli offered Carr, but I would bet top dollar he offered him a a contract that was equal to or better than the top #2 corners in the league.

I don't think they made an offer at all.

Just Passin' By 07-08-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8726534)
Late last night, the New York Jets signed a four-year, $34 million deal, with cornerback Antonio Cromartie.


That's not top money Carr would have turned that down.

He signed that last year. That was top money.

Hammock Parties 07-08-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8726451)
The Bucs are a potential contender?

Sure, they were an ass hair from the playoffs before last season.

luv 07-08-2012 08:33 PM

No way. I was going to say it depends on how much is guaranteed, but I don't think that would even matter.

notorious 07-08-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8726523)
We'll have to respectfully disagree.

But then, as good as Fitz and CJ are, I think they are overpaid.

That goes back to my original point.

The only player you overpay is a franchise QB.

Every other position is expendable.

And I am a fan of Bowe (and Carr).

This.

OnTheWarpath15 07-08-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8726529)
How did he nail it?

Carr got big time money from the Boys.
#1 corner money.

We have no idea what Pioli offered Carr, but I would bet top dollar he offered him a a contract that was equal to or better than the top #2 corners in the league.

There's the problem.

We offered a CB2 money to a CB1.

Assuming, as Brock said, we made him an offer at all.

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-08-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8726544)
There's the problem.

We offered a CB2 money to a CB1.

When you have Flowers you should do that. Carr will show you this year he is no number 1.

O.city 07-08-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8726541)
Sure, they were an ass hair from the playoffs before last season.

They were awful last year.


And that year they nearly made the playoffs, didn't they play a weak schedule?

OnTheWarpath15 07-08-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8726546)
When you have Flowers you should do that. Carr will show you this year he is no number 1.

What he does in Dallas is irrelevant.

Different defense, surrounding cast, etc.

What Carr does in Dallas doesn't change the fact he was a CB1 for the Kansas City Chiefs.

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-08-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8726551)
What he does in Dallas is irrelevant.

Different defense, surrounding cast, etc.

What Carr does in Dallas doesn't change the fact he was a CB1 for the Kansas City Chiefs.


ROFL i guess so when flowers was taking on the teams number 1 wr.

OnTheWarpath15 07-08-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8726553)
ROFL i guess so when flowers was taking on the teams number 1 wr.

Laugh all you want, he's a better CB than Flowers.

I love Brandon Flowers, but he's overrated because of his run support.

Pissing match over who the better CB is aside, this is a QB-driven, passing league.

Which means 4 positions are of utmost importance:

QB: Over $10M a year average and $30M guaranteed for subpar play.

CB: Downgraded to save $3M a year when we're $30M under the cap.

WR: Potentially losing a Top 5-8 WR, again over money.

DE/OLB: Luckily, we're covered here.

1 out of 4 ain't bad, eh?

OnTheWarpath15 07-08-2012 08:45 PM

And FWIW, Carr and Flowers primarily played a side of the field, not a specific WR.

IIRC, Carr played the right and Flowers the left.

Brock 07-08-2012 08:46 PM

Regardless of whether he's a 1 or not, I have no problem with letting Carr go. I wish they could have gotten something in return. But I think investing too much money in corners would be stupid. I can't think of any team that does that.

milkman 07-08-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8726551)
What he does in Dallas is irrelevant.

Different defense, surrounding cast, etc.

What Carr does in Dallas doesn't change the fact he was a CB1 for the Kansas City Chiefs.

While I agree that Carr could have been the #1 CB in KC, the fact is, Flowers was lined up against the #1 receiver a good 80% of the time.


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