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On the face of it, I would agree with Austin that there is nothing morally wrong with a kid helping out with the family business (as long as there is adult supervision).

I am a little surprised at the number of people that have zero problem with a law being broken. This seems like a very close analogy to the illegal immigration arguements, as in "what part of illegal don't you get" and "taking jobs from legal workers".

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8738050)

of course not, but I bet there are times when the parents go in the back in an office or storage to do stuff leaving her out there, making her vulnerable. Either way you look at it, it's pretty irresponsible.

Eh, depends on how paranoid you are I guess. Liquor stores do get robbed, but it's a tiny, tiny percentage of them that do. You could argue that letting a 12-year-old be at home alone after school for a couple hours is dangerous as well, but a significant percentage of parents do so out of necessity, and it's rarely a big deal.

I'm one of those who thinks we've gone way too far in being overprotective of our kids to the point that many grow up to suck as adults.

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 8740365)

This seems like a very close analogy to the illegal immigration arguements, as in "what part of illegal don't you get" and "taking jobs from legal workers".

not even a little close

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 8740365)

Because, to me, its not something evil. I could give a **** about the laws that other people make. I mean the small stupid ass ones like this one.

Now, if they were selling meth or something out the store, then i'd have an issue. lol one of thier kids or nephews? no i wouldnt, not at all. Chances are they are the ones that will be taking the store over. At least thats how it works here

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Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8737892)

I think its legal for an underage child to work for their parents if they own the business.

In a Liquor store? So if there is a sting operation to check to see if they are asking for proper ID, do you think the state is going to allow a 12 year-old in charge of that?

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 8740365)

The analogy isn't close at all, and not ratting people out about really stupid laws is an American norm.

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8737986)

I might say something like, "hey, it's none of my business, but if the wrong person walked in and saw your kid selling alcohol, you could get into deep shit." ...and leave it at that.

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8737986)

I might say something like, "hey, it's none of my business, but if the wrong person walked in and saw your kid selling alcohol, you could get into deep shit." ...and leave it at that.

If you HAVE to stick your nose into their business, you just as well do it like this.

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Originally Posted by DanT (Post 8740226)

I'm under the impression that liquor licenses are not especially easy to get and that the holders of those licenses get to markup their prices accordingly. Part of the regulations concerns the process of controlling alcohol sells to minors, so it seems that a store ought to have effective systems in place to prevent that. I don't think that most Kansans would consider having a 12 year-old kid ringing up the sales to be such a system, but maybe they would. If that liquor store isn't interested in hiring someone to sell the stuff in accordance with the understood laws and customs of the state of Kansas, I hope their prices make it clear that they are foregoing the standard markup used by the sort of liquor stores that follow the law. That's just a simple matter of fairness to the other citizens and business owners who either voted for or bribed the lawmakers who created the regulatory environment in Kansas. ;)

Anyway, I'm not a Kansan. I generally buy my liquor at a grocery store that is routinely ranked as one of the 100 best employers in America (Nugget Markets) or that is the shop in my small town's downtown which has a liquor afficiondo (whom I'm pretty sure is the owner) selling the stuff. If Kansans want to become a more and more corrupt society that has laws that they don't respect but don't bother to repeal, then I hope they are at least getting a bargain out of the deal. ;)

This guy gets it. Liquor licenses are like gold, and risking losing it over something like this is monumentally stupid. And I'm pretty sure part of the reason you have to be of age to sell it is because you have to be old enough to be held responsible for any underage sales. Police do often run stings where they send minors in to attempt to purchase alcohol, can you imagine what would happen if this happened and 12 yr old sold to one? While they couldn't prosecute the kid, that store owner can kiss his license, and his business, goodbye.