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Quesadilla Joe 07-14-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8740077)
You're not even trying anymore.

I've already discussed the Chiefs roster at length a few times. No need for me to write 5 or 6 paragraphs on the Chiefs again.

O.city 07-14-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8740080)
Frachise QB, Franchise LT, elite passrush, shutdown corner.... Denver has all of the tools that GM's look for when building a roster. Without Manning the Broncos would probably be ranked near where PFT has the Chiefs ranked, but with him they are a top 10 team.

Chiefs have all those, save for 1.

O.city 07-14-2012 03:16 PM

I forget you think every shit guy the Broncos bring in are elite.

Jerm 07-14-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8740084)
Chiefs have all those, save for 1.

...and we have 2 if not 3 "elite" pass rushers.

Better RBs, better WR core, better TEs, secondary...etc.

It's a joke.

O.city 07-14-2012 03:18 PM

The Broncos do have 2 elite pass rushers, won't argue that.

Just Passin' By 07-14-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8740080)
Frachise QB, Franchise LT, elite passrush, shutdown corner.... Denver has all of the tools that GM's look for when building a roster. Without Manning the Broncos would probably be ranked near where PFT has the Chiefs ranked, but with him they are a top 10 team.

QB - Coming off a lost season and multiple neck surgeries
LT - hasn't played at "franchise" level in years
Pass rush - true
Shutdown Corner - Who'd the Broncos trade for?

Quesadilla Joe 07-14-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8740084)
Chiefs have all those, save for 1.

No. You have a single passrusher, the Chiefs had the third fewest sacks in the entire league last year.

Brandon Flowers is a #1 corner, not a shutdown corner. Ray Crocket was a solid #1 corner but he wasn't a shutdown corner.

And Albert is a solid LT. He won't shutout an elite pass rusher one on one.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-14-2012 03:19 PM

Below average defense and running game. QB missing an entire year with a broken neck. Meh recieving threats. Not seeing it.

O.city 07-14-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8740091)
No. You have a single passrusher, the Chiefs had the third fewest sacks in the entire league last year.

Brandon Flowers is a #1 corner, not a shutdown corner. Ray Crocket was a solid #1 corner but he wasn't a shutdown corner.

And Albert is a solid LT. He won't shutout an elite pass rusher one on one.

Didn't Hali abuse your "franchise" LT last year?


Champ's not a shutdown guy anymore. Sorry.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-14-2012 03:22 PM

Chiefs were one of the best pass rushing teams the 2nd half of the year last year. It was a totally different defense.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-14-2012 03:22 PM

We would be a Super Bowl contender with a QB. Reminds me of the Vikings of a couple years ago before they got Favre. All we need is a QB. I think we're good enough to win the West this year with Cassel though. Just nothing after that.

Ace Gunner 07-14-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8739928)
the Chiefs took a surprisingly big step backward in 2011


Do people watch any football before they write this crap? 1 Block FG away from winning the West and that's a big step backwards?

The AFCW leader was 8 - 8 with Jesus on the team. I'm confident when I say the Chiefs took a major step backward last season when it became evident they could not even look good going 8 - 8 and win the division over awful competition.

DBOSHO 07-14-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8740053)
Sounds right to me. The Chiefs front seven is filled with backups aside from DJ and Tamba. Their secondary is good. Their OL is decent, RB's are good (assuming Charles is healthy), and if Bowe pulls a VJ the Chiefs have nothing at WR.

The Chiefs have a solid roster but no game changers aside from Jamaal Charles and who knows if he will ever be the same.

Lol two tackles in the top 12 according to pff is "okay"

Glenn and tyson are bad. Houston is bad.

And the chiefs have nothing at wr except a 1st rounder with near calvin johnson type upside and a #2/3 reciever that had 700 yds with matt cassel and tyler palko throwing to him.

DBOSHO 07-14-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8740080)
Frachise QB, Franchise LT, elite passrush, shutdown corner.... Denver has all of the tools that GM's look for when building a roster. Without Manning the Broncos would probably be ranked near where PFT has the Chiefs ranked, but with him they are a top 10 team.

Weird how kc has all of those minus a 36 year old qb with a broken neck.

Lonewolf Ed 07-14-2012 03:42 PM

Preseason power rankings don't get me too worried or too enthused. Unless a team drafts or signs a player who is expected to make a big impact, it's pretty much looking at where the team was at the end of the previous season. What was the key weakness on this team last season? Simple: the QB. Palko was a disaster and Cassel was having a crappy season before his injury. Since KC didn't replace Cassel, how could they be ranked much higher at this point? The back up QB situation has improved, but unless Cassel somehow loses his starting job, and that will likely be only due to another injury, the team's fortunes are largely tied to how he plays. Sad, but true. If Cassel does go in the tank, there are fewer excuses this season, so perhaps that is a plus.


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