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jd1020 09-03-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8874947)
If Thigpen was here he would do no worse, I'm more than willing to say he might not do better, but he would do absolutely no worse than Kasl.

You know how I know this to be fact? Because a cardboard cut out of Timmy Brady would be a more effective QB than Kasl. This doesn't even come out of hate for the guy... was in his corner FOREVER. This comes out of the fact that he is not mobile, can't read a D, his whole throwing motion sucks, he couldn't even start a ****ing college game ahead of Matt ****ing Leinart.

People said the same shit about Palko when Cassel went down and he became the starter.

Cassel isn't a top, or maybe even middle of the pack, caliber starter. But there are in fact QBs that are worse.

Mr. Laz 09-03-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8874947)
Because a cardboard cut out of Timmy Brady would be a more effective QB than Kasl.

there's that logical thinking that we all love so much


yea, this makes your judgement about QB's so very,very reliable.

jjchieffan 09-03-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8874562)
Thiggy is 1-11 as a starter and has been cut by 2 or 3 teams now. Yet yet there are still believers?


I could be mistaken, but I think the only team to cut him was the Vikings as a rookie trying to put him on their PS. We then traded him to Miami. I believe Miami then traded him to Buffalo. Am I right on this? I could be mixing up the facts.

cdcox 09-03-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8874560)
Thigpen has never completed even 55% of his passes in a season. Ever. He's barely thrown more TD's than INT's and has a career 1-11 record as a starter.

There are plenty of backup QBs you can make an argument about regarding this, but including Thigpen in this discussion is complete stupidity. I mean, serious stupidity. He is not better than Ricky Stanzi.

But Thiggy runs around and stuff!!!

pr_capone 09-03-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8874949)
People said the same shit about Palko when Cassel went down and he became the starter.

IIRC... People were calling for Stanzi.

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Cassel isn't a top, or maybe even middle of the pack, caliber starter. But there are in fact QBs that are worse.
Give me the names of starters who are unequivocally worse than Kasl. I'm betting the list is less than 4 names long.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 09-03-2012 05:55 PM

We saw what Thigpen could do when he was here.

Nothing

He was a place holder, nothing more, nothing less. He was a back-up who got to play because Croyle AND Huard got hurt. He did so well, we immediately went out and got another quarterback to replace him.

He was so damn effective he led the Chiefs to a 1-10 record.

Good god, people. He sucks. He sucks hard. He's not going to ever be a starting quarterback in the NFL again and he sure the hell should never darken the door at Arrowhead even as a water boy.

Mr. Laz 09-03-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8874966)
IIRC... People were calling for Stanzi.

Give me the names of starters who are unequivocally worse than Kasl. I'm betting the list is less than 4 names long.

Ron Jaworski already did and his dumps knows more about being an NFL QB than all of us combined.

pr_capone 09-03-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8874951)
there's that logical thinking that we all love so much


yea, this makes your judgement about QB's so very,very reliable.

Hyperbole. It is a very cool word.

BossChief 09-03-2012 05:57 PM

Let me just go ahead and put this craziness here...

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874807)
In 11 games...

2608 passing yards
386 yards rushing
22 totaal touchdowns (18 passing tds, 3 rushing tds, 1 receiving touchdown)
12 interceptions

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874826)
BTW

If you take those numbers and extrapolate them over the course of 16 games, you get:

4,407 total yards (WOW)
3793 passing yards
561 rushing yards
53 receiving yards (thank you, Ronde)
32 total touchdowns
17 interceptions

Couple that with our defense, and it would be a fun year.

Gimmick or not.

Go ahead and check my math...


cdcox 09-03-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8874941)

people around here have got some stupid ass lynch mob hatred going for Cassel that is just pointless.

Cassel is head and shoulders better than Thigpen, but the point of the lynch mod hatred is that Cassel still sucks.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 09-03-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874977)
Let me just go ahead and put this craziness here...

Let's extrapolate that out over 16 games.

1-10 in 11 games

2-14 in 16 games.

Three7s 09-03-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8874966)
IIRC... People were calling for Stanzi.



Give me the names of starters who are unequivocally worse than Kasl. I'm betting the list is less than 4 names long.

Kevin Kolb/Josh Skelton
Blaine Gabbert
Mark Sanchez (tie)
Christian Ponder

That's all I can think of, and you can obviously argue about Sanchez.

BossChief 09-03-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 8874987)
Kevin Kolb/Josh Skelton
Blaine Gabbert
Mark Sanchez (tie)
Christian Ponder

That's all I can think of, and you can obviously argue about Sanchez.

have you seen Gabbert so far this year?

Might want to think twice on that one...

cdcox 09-03-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874990)
have you seen Gabbert so far this year?

Might want to think twice on that one...

Yeah, with a stellar defense, solid line and some decent WRs, I could Vision him winning a couple of playoff games.

Three7s 09-03-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874990)
have you seen Gabbert so far this year?

Might want to think twice on that one...

I'm just going off of what I saw last year.


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