He's not good at rushing the passer. If he was, Allen Bailey wouldn't have been drafted. You're a ****ing moron. Do you watch the Chiefs play football? Jesus ****ing Christ. ****ing people who have no sense at all or any kind of football knowledge whatsoever like this ****ing paramecium and BlackBob are allowed to stay on this board?

Why don't you actually watch Dorsey play in 2009, 2010, and the first half of last year. Watch carefully, and you can see him continually fail to get any kind of push up the pocket or show enough athleticism to stunt effectively. There is a reason he has come off the field in sub-packages. It is because he isn't good enough at rushing the passer.


**** me, I just got trolled didn't I? Oh, XanathBob you...

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How sad is it that Dorsey's last season at LSU he had 7 sacks.

He has 4 in the last 4 seasons combined.

I think most people had Dorsey as one of the top 3 players in the draft the year he came out. He dropped because of team needs. He is not the first high pick to not live up to expectations. I have more of an issue with the drafting of Jackson. He should have never been selected as high as he did. That is an epic fail.

He had 7 sacks and 12.5 tackles for loss his senior year at LSU, in spite of routinely being double teamed. To say he has never had the ability to penetrate is ridiculous.

If he was any good, the coaches would leave him on the field.

Sincerely,
I'm not exactly sure why Charles only got 5 carries.

You're a dumbass and as such, feel the need to advertise that fact to the world. Dorsey is doing exactly what he is asked to do. Playing Madden doesn't help you realize that in the KC defense, the DL are responsible for all running plays - including the draw. In Dorsey's second year, the DC quite literally broke him out of his initial step, so he can perform their "punch & hold" technique ( typical base 3-4 ), all focused on guarding the run. And at stopping the run, he has been one of the best last year and the year before. But since you're a moron, you think pass rushing is his responsibility in this defense, because you simply don't know any better - and refuse to learn.

What you fail to see is your own idiocy in putting ANY reason into the staff of the worse organization in the NFL. The KC ownership is cheap. The KC GM sucks. The KC coaches suck. And yet you're basing player evaluations on their actions & how they determine who plays what, when & how?!? Without a frog fart bubble of a clue what the player is being told to do?!? That's the very definition of being a dumbass. Here's hoping you're sterile.

He can still be good we need a new DC. poe im not sure about

I'm pretty sure the Dorsey experiment is over in KC, and I'm not sure he'll ever amount to anything now.

That being said, he was a legit top 5 pick with legit ability to push the pocket. He may never have put up more than 5 sacks in a season, but he should have helped collapse the pocket so our ends could do their thing.

He was a strong, explosive college player, that only got 1 year in the NFL to do his thing.

And the suggestion that the way our current coaches use him is proof of anything is the most absurd thing I've ever heard.

Well, this is the point I"m trying to make here. A RB isn't going to be as good of a receiver as a receiver, even if he was a great receiver in high school. It's because all their training goes toward being a running back. Now, if you spent a full offseason coaching receiving technique, prepping his body to be a receiver, maybe he becomes better.

Dorsey spent one year learning more of a NT from dimwit Gunther Cunningham. He spent the next 4 years learning a read and react defense. He hasn't been coached on pass rush moves. I'm sure the majority of his technique he's been coached on is engage-and-shed, as opposed to swim moves and other moves meant to get into the backfield. And the read and react takes away his greatest strength, which is his explosion off the snap.

I'd like to see Dorsey in a 1-gap. Give him the full offseason to prep and learn and practice it. I don't expect him to rack up a ton of sacks. But in college, he was always in the backfield pushing the pocket in. People say he played 2-gap. But in college, he was asked to explode to the ball, not read and react as he does today.

I ran up and down my street yelling with glee when Dorsey fell to us. True story.

Bill Maas highlighted Poe tonight in MSN during his breakdowns and had nothing but good things to say about the kid

Bill Maas is a great source.

PFF teased that he had a good game, too. Their breakdown is coming or is already out, haven't checked.

edit - yep, Poe had a 0.5 in run defense with 5 stops.

Not bad.

That isn't at all what any of my posts say, you moron. Dorsey is a fine run-stopper. The post says that people are making Dorsey out to be some mythical pass-rusher who would excel in the 4-3 or the 1-gap. That isn't and wouldn't be the case. Did you even read the OP? XanathBob, please go away.