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The Franchise 12-03-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9176574)
Petro just brought up a very good point.

The Chiefs just played their PERFECT game. They did EVERYTHING they wanted to do - no turnovers, no stupid penalties, ran the ball well, efficient in the passing game...

And they beat the 3-win Panthers in a nailbiter.

They are who we thought they were.

Yeah.....and the Panthers defense is HORRIBLE.

HemiEd 12-03-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9176255)
Look, do what you want. Get your hopes all up for Geno. I absolutely love him as a prospect and he's far and away my first choice for our pick.

But I'm a Chiefs fan, and have been for a few decades, I know how this works.

I'm not gonna invest ANYTHING emotionally in this because that ALWAYS ends in a letdown. ALWAYS.

You should probably step away from this team for a couple of years. :D

InChiefsHeaven 12-03-2012 01:55 PM

It seems to me that the only teams that would want a QB would be us, the Jags and the Raiders...

Crush 12-03-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9176237)
After what the man went through on Saturday, you'd think some fans would have more class than this.

If Coach Winslow doesn't want to be attacked by the "classless and evil" fans then he has every right to resign and get the **** out of Kansas City.

htismaqe 12-03-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9176630)
You should probably step away from this team for a couple of years. :D

Not yet. I'm gonna wait and see what they do and then make a solid and STEADFAST decision.

They either get rid of Pioli and draft a QB or a take a step away from this team PERMANENTLY.

At least that's where I'm at right now.

Chief_For_Life58 12-03-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9175883)
May never see Seymour again, I think he retires... He won't be in a Raiders uniform next year regardless...

who wants to play in a raiders outfit?

Chief_For_Life58 12-03-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9176691)
Not yet. I'm gonna wait and see what they do and then make a solid and STEADFAST decision.

They either get rid of Pioli and draft a QB or a take a step away from this team PERMANENTLY.

At least that's where I'm at right now.

this also means you have to leave cp if youre gonna leave the chiefs

htismaqe 12-03-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9176714)
this also means you have to leave cp if youre gonna leave the chiefs

There's plenty of Pats and Broncos fans posting here.

So you can **** off, True Fan.

whoman69 12-03-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9176691)
Not yet. I'm gonna wait and see what they do and then make a solid and STEADFAST decision.

They either get rid of Pioli and draft a QB or a take a step away from this team PERMANENTLY.

At least that's where I'm at right now.

Seconded

L.A. Chieffan 12-03-2012 03:32 PM

meh, I'm confident KC will find a way to **** it up even if they get the #1

HemiEd 12-03-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9176691)
Not yet. I'm gonna wait and see what they do and then make a solid and STEADFAST decision.

They either get rid of Pioli and draft a QB or a take a step away from this team PERMANENTLY.

At least that's where I'm at right now.

I really haven't changed that much on the subject as it seems. I give them about a 10% chance of taking a 1st round QB.

It was fun again yesterday to see a QB actually do his job instead of acting like a scared bitch.

Did I get as excited as I used to with a win? Not even close, and some of that was due to the Belcher murder/suicide that I only found out about right before the game.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-03-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9176368)
I don't know. Losing him to the Raiders would probably hurt worse.

You know what would sting the most though, whether it's the Jets, Raiders, or Jags?

That we lost him to a team that has taken a 1st-round QB in the last 5 ****ing years yet we haven't taken one in THIRTY.


Losing him to the Raiders and keeping Peeholi/Crennel changes everything for me. I officially cut this team the **** loose.

Saccopoo 12-03-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9176262)
What do you guys think the odds are that if we fail to capture the #1 pick that the draft tards like McShay and Kiper are right, and teams DON'T want one of these QBs?

I mean, if we fail here, we're going to be at the mercy of their prognostications to successfully find our QB. That's not very comforting, no, but is it still somewhat possible?

It's going to come down to who has the pick. The only non-QB I see in this draft who has a REMOTE chance of reaching appropriate value is Star Lotulelei. How many teams would be tempted to draft him? Carolina, certainly. Jacksonville and Oakland possibly. Philly and Cleveland probably not.

After that I see feces. **** Te'o in the top 5. Jarvis Jones? You kidding me? Talk about the top guys at their position who aren't of a #1 overall quality. That Alabama game is a damning case against Jones even going in the top 10, personally. I know some team will snatch him up regardless, but still.

Werner will go ahead of Jones at this point. He's been an absolute beast this season with a non-stop motor.

Lotulelei will go first if it's Carolina picking #1. It's as good a pick as they can possibly make and Starlite is as good a defensive tackle prospect as there is in a draft.

Jacksonville needs pass rushers in the worst way as their defensive ends have generated nothing in terms of production for the entire season. However, Gabbert is done there, so they'll also need a QB. Their interior defensive line isn't very good either. It's going to come down to whether or not they think an impact defensive player is higher rated or the QB. It will come down to Geno Smith, Starlite Lotulelei or Bjoern Werner if they are picking first. My personal feeling is that they go Werner and then take the QB in the second.

Oakland is in the same exact boat as Jacksonville other than they could possibly squeeze out a couple more years from Carson Palmer. They gave up a lot to get him, so I can see them going defense before a QB. Their interior line is horrible and so are their ends. They also need a ILB. I can see them going with Manti Te'o, or Lotulelei or Werner if they are picking first. Most likely Lotulelei.

Philadelphia is through with Vick. Foles is only a fourth rounder with no experience. Their offensive line isn't good either - particularly their tackles. If I was a betting man, they probably end up with Luke Joeckel if they pick first.

The Chiefs should go Geno Smith. They should have their franchise taken away from them if they don't. However, I could see a catastrophic idiocy take place and have them go with Manti Te'o, especially in the wake of the Belcher situation - and if Pioli is still calling the shots. He'll go after Alex Smith and draft Te'o. (Don't think it's possible? This is the guy that took a five tech defensive end third, a Conference USA nose tackle 11th and a safety fifth. That's ****ing nuts. And if Te'o wins the Heisman? Fergit about it.)

OnTheWarpath15 12-03-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9176574)
Petro just brought up a very good point.

The Chiefs just played their PERFECT game. They did EVERYTHING they wanted to do - no turnovers, no stupid penalties, ran the ball well, efficient in the passing game...

And they beat the 3-win Panthers in a nailbiter.

They are who we thought they were.

Petro must have been sitting directly behind me in section 131 yesterday, because I said the exact same thing to Phobia yesterday during Carolina's last "drive".

BigMeatballDave 12-03-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9176714)
this also means you have to leave cp if youre gonna leave the chiefs

Belcher yourself


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