Hmmm. You didn't really answer my question.

Look, I'm sure they'd love to win a SB, but I don't believe that it's a priority for them or any other coach/GM in the league. Their main concern is keeping their jobs for as long as possible. If they happen to win a SB along the way, that's great. If not, oh well, we all made a shit ton of money.

2010 was rough for a lot of folk$.

Agreed. What kills me is how they KNOW xWhats going to happen and how they KNOW that the new regime only wants to go 8-8 and their goal isn't to go to SB. They KNOW everything.

No one KNOWS shit. They may be right, they may not. But to even for a one second think that it's more important to be mediocre than win it all is ridiculous. Everyone wants to win a SB. From the owner, to the GM, to the water boy, to the fans. Everyone wants to wina championship. 8-8 isn't enough for anyone, although to may be what we a looking at next year. But, I don't think anyone's goal is to continue to be 8-8.

Smith is a stop gap for the moment, until he proves otherwise, and I can't imagine this FO not drafting a QB once they see one they like.

Th draft hasn't happened yet. The poker hand hasn't hit the river yet.

That's true.

Andy Reid is an established coach. He didn't come to KC to go 8-8 and worry about his job, I guarantee you that.

He has his guaranteed $ wrapped up in his contract, you act like he could get fired after 2 seasons and miss out on the other 3 years worth of money. Nope he is paid one way or another.

The fact is all Reid has to focus on is winning as much as humanly possible. I dont think 8-8 is part of that plan.

Does he have the ability to push this team to a playoff win? I think so. If he doesn't it wont be because he got to 8-8 and didn't worry about anything more.

If anything the trade for Smith tells us they think they can win now. Had they drafted Geno they would have had a few years to develop him without worry of job repercussions.

Trading for Alex pushed the expectations on them right now so that blows the 8-8 job security crap off the map out the gate.

This is so sad.

Chunt thinks the way to make us love the Chiefs is to give us a plastic card to earn "Frequent Fan Points?" They want me to use a Chiefs Card like I'm shopping at CVS or Price Chopper? JFC, gimme a break. All they want to do is gather more marketing information. That's all this is. It is a cynical, calculated business move only. This proves NOTHING to me. If they really loved the STH, they wouldn't make you EARN a trip onto the sidelines. I got to do that anyway the last couple of years. I don't give a crap about having dinner with Coach Reid. It would probably be pretty disgusting anyway, watching that fat **** choke down a slab of ribs.

Every retail outlet now wants you to have "their card." They want to know what you bought, when you bought it, why you bought it, what else you might buy....buy....buy....buy.....buy.

Nothing to see here. It's same as it ever was.

I have a lot of questions about whether Reid can manage games to get a team into a Super Bowl. Never once have I questioned that the dude wants to win.

Actually, not to nitpick, but having worked on the data side of these programs, these programs are great for the business and the customer. It's a great idea and I'm glad the Chiefs are on the cutting edge. As for "earning" rewards. I love this too. If you are a devoted fan through thick and thin, more than just showing up to a few games and sitting down the entire time, than hell yeah, give them better seats and perks. I don't see any problem with rewarding fans who are most loyal to their team. Since it sounds like you are beyond a loyal fan, I'm sure you'll get some sweet perks too and your tune will change.

All these ****ers want is a swift return to Martyball. Hell, I bet that shit was even brought up in the initial meetings. "remember the good ol' days"? Etc. Oh yeah, the days we didnt win jack-shit? Oh yeah. That was ****in' grrrrrrrrrrreat! **** me.
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So... The card will monitor your ass psition to determine whether you are standing or sitting?
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Andy Reid is an offensive coach who doesn't run the ball much. I don't know what you're trying to say here. Just because the team is dialed in to going 8-8 now, does not mean they don't want to be serious winners in the future. We haven't seen good or bad what their long-term plan is.

If you are going to every home game multiple years, draft parties, Arrowhead events, etc.... more than likely you love this team, and more than likely you're the type of fan who likes to stand and get loud. Not rocket science.

Are you a mult for Reid the Red, the Chiefs current version of Baghdad Bob?

Oh, and as far as "earning rewards as a devoted fan" all I can tell you is my family has had season tickets for 45 years. In 1993 when the Chiefs made it to the AFC Championship game, all we got from the Chiefs was a letter from Carl Peterson telling to go **** ourselves if we wanted a shot at Super Bowl Tickets. That really showed me what the Chiefs thought of our family loyalty when the rubber met the road.

So gblowfish you apparently just glossed over all the rest of the article then or picked out the one thing you wanted to rant about? From reading your post it is apparent you have a agenda and nothing will fix that... your issue, not ours.

In reality I think most fans don't care about the whole "card reward business" even though it is smart business, as much as they do with the connection and feeling like insiders aspect. The fanbase as a whole just wants to feel like what they had interaction wise back in the 90' to mid 00's (I know that whole Martyball/Grandpa Dick era pisses some of you off). Nothing less and nothing more. Sure everyone will come completely back once we start winning but don't think for a second there isn't a large portion of the fanbase that just want to feel they are a part of the franchise like they once were. By going .500 really gets most of those fans back along with the feeling of being loved/connected... I know that pisses some on this board off mightily!

For those to say Dorsey, Reid and Hunt just want to be .500 to fill Clark's pockets are insane and stupid! Those guys want to win championships as bad or probably worse than the fanbase.

No, man. I respect your opinion a lot. I am just saying I know the loyalty business and think you have a misperception of it. This is one of the few business practices that have been great for customers and fans. Because businesses that use loyalty/rewards cards build their business around what customers want, not what some executive on the 50th floor thinks customers want.

To your second point... I know you've been screwed in the past. I'm assuming the new program fixes that by actually tracking your loyalty, not just with season tickets, but also with things you do outside of Arrowhead. Maybe you'll get ****ed again. If you do, that's a damn shame.