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Mr. Laz 04-28-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9640617)
Guards get huge contracts these days. So why not try to lock Albert up long term at a decent price and play him at LT or LG. As many have said money talks and it makes no sense to trade him now.

If Albert was willing to sign for a decent price he would of been signed 2 years ago.

Maybe Albert will change his demands a little now after Miami turned down his contract demands. Because lets be honest, the reason the trade with Miami didn't happen is because they didn't think that Albert was a 9 million per type guy. If they did then a 2nd round pick would of be an acceptable trade price.

Cannibal 04-28-2013 11:44 AM

It remains to be seen if Stephenson is going to amount anything.

He didn't play very well (IMO), when he stepped in for Albert.

Nickel D 04-28-2013 11:45 AM

KC's not gonna give him a long-term contract; BA's back issues are sure to put him on the DL again. D&R will find another OT in next year's off-season.

philfree 04-28-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 9640638)
KC's not gonna give him a long-term contract; BA's back issues are sure to put him on the DL again. D&R will find another OT in next year's off-season.

I read right after the draft that Albert and the Chiefs were talking contract again. Could have been untrue I guess but it was out there.

Mr. Laz 04-28-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 9640638)
KC's not gonna give him a long-term contract; BA's back issues are sure to put him on the DL again. D&R will find another OT in next year's off-season.

Albert starts at LT
Fisher starts at RT

If Albert gets hurt again then Fisher slides over to LT and Stephenson fills in at RT.

Albert loses his leverage and his big contract ... probably ends up at guard with another team next year.

BossChief 04-28-2013 12:14 PM

I wonder how much Clabo is looking for and if we can afford it.

I bet he would take a 2yr/7 million dollar contract and that would really solidify the OL.

Fisher
Albert
Hudson
Asamoah
Clabo

Reserves:
Stephenson
Allen
Schwartz
Kush

That's as solid a line as you will find in the league.

The Bad Guy 04-28-2013 12:17 PM

I do think if they were able to move Albert they would have sniffed around Clabo.

milkman 04-28-2013 12:18 PM

Surprised that Clabo is still on the market.

That guy is as solid and steady as they come.

Bewbies 04-28-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9640725)
Surprised that Clabo is still on the market.

That guy is as solid and steady as they come.

Nobody in ATL misses him.

milkman 04-28-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9640745)
Nobody in ATL misses him.

Nobody appreciates solid and steady.

keg in kc 04-28-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9640658)
Albert starts at LT
Fisher starts at RT

That's exactly what I would do. You hope/assume Fisher's the long term LT solution, but right at this moment the team will be better with Albert at LT and him at RT than it would be in any other line combination I can think of. Although for me it's not about giving Fisher time to learn and it doesn't have anything to do with Albert's future. It's solely about putting the best line possible on the field.

KC kid 04-28-2013 12:48 PM

I don't give a crap about BA's feelings. Put him at LG or RT. We want our stud 1.1 LT out there learning his craft on the job. Even if we put Albert out at LT to do is mediocre best, he would get hurt at some point and we would get stuck watching Stephenson out there because everyone would be too scared to change positions on Fisher mid season.

Seriously. **** Branden Albert

AustinChief 04-28-2013 12:53 PM

I seriously don't see why everyone wants to waste a year of Fisher's development by playing him at RT while rewarding Albert for not being a team player and having insane contract demands.

Switching SIDES is far far far harder than switching positions.

Don't believe me? Ask Geoff Schwartz...

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“If you look at most lines, the backup LT is the LG, or he’s on the bench. Both teams I’ve played on, our backup LT was the LG.”

“It’s very difficult for guys to be able to effectively play on both sides of the line without long hours practicing it,” Schwartz went on.

“That is why you don’t often see linemen switching sides of the ball for injury or performance. Playing offensive line is a very technical position. Being a great athlete and a physical player can only take you so far if you don’t use proper technique. You must drill over and over again to get the footwork and hand placement down. On top of that, mentally switching things over in your head can be tough at first. You’re used to reacting to movement on one side of the line of scrimmage, now it’s happening on the opposite side”.
Albert at LG makes by far the most sense. That way Schwartz isn't forced to switch sides as well. (and yes I know that still leaves us with a hole at RT for now)

keg in kc 04-28-2013 01:11 PM

Not that I disagree, but Will Shields didn't seem to have any trouble going from right to left in the days when he was our backup LT. Fisher's already played everywhere on the line at CMU so I doubt his growth will be stunted in any way. Anyway, I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm not thinking in terms of "rewarding" Albert, I'm just thinking in terms of fielding the best possible line. Personally, I think you need to throw all emotion out the window, stop thinking in terms of "screw Branden Albert, he's not a team player", understand that every angle of the situation between Albert and the Chiefs is business, and think in terms of putting the best unit on the field.

Mr. Laz 04-28-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9640774)
That's exactly what I would do. You hope/assume Fisher's the long term LT solution, but right at this moment the team will be better with Albert at LT and him at RT than it would be in any other line combination I can think of. Although for me it's not about giving Fisher time to learn and it doesn't have anything to do with Albert's future. It's solely about putting the best line possible on the field.

Albert
Schwartz
Hudson
Asomoah
Fisher

imo right now this is the best line we have

rumor has that Allen is going to work at tackle so he and Stephenson would be our backups at OT

Kush,matteson,lilja? as backups in the middle

I imagine Allen will work at guard as well

depth isn't what you would hope but i don't know anything about Kush


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