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blaise 05-03-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9654726)
"Bitch should have never got pregnant. Her choice. I say, let her and the baby starve to death. Entitlements are killing this country. Leech!" - The CP DC Section

Oh, how cute. DC here in the lounge.

Oxford 05-03-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cockeyes (Post 9654707)
I don't think they are discriminating. She's being held to the same standard as everyone else.

The problem is the rules need to be enforced equally, to the benefit/detriment of all employees. We all know that in a business there are high/medium/low achievers. I can't tell you how many times I do a slow burn because I get someone elses problems to solve because I'll get it done.

cockeyes 05-03-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 9654723)
Reasonable accommodation.

I think they've made a "reasonable accommodation", she's allowed to go to the bathroom as much as she wants so long as she clocks out.

She is not disabled, her pregnancy has no impact on her ability to perform any of the essential functions of a call center job.

Paying someone who isn't working is not a reasonable accommodation. Allowing her unlimited bathroom breaks when no one else gets this privilege is, I think.

If I were her manager I would be looking the other way just as good business, but this isn't an ADA issue

blaise 05-03-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 9654723)
Reasonable accommodation.

You don't know how many times an hour she was saying she had to use the bathroom, so how do you know whether they were making reasonable accommodations or not?

notorious 05-03-2013 08:56 AM

My friends used to joke about "Being paid to take a shit".


I told them how much they were costing their employer per year by pooping on the clock. 40 employees x 15 minutes = 600 minutes of work lost. 600 minutes = 10 hours x $20/hour = $200 lost per day.

$200x300 days = 60K. Shocking.

RockChalk 05-03-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9654207)
I made it a week and a half at a call center a long time ago. Some place in Lawrence KS when I first moved there for college. Most boring job ever, I couldn't stand it at all. They weren't micro managing the shit out of us or anything, but it was just too ****ing boring sitting there for 8 hours on a phone. God, I couldn't stand that job at all.

Affinitas?

Bearcat 05-03-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cockeyes (Post 9654707)
I don't think they are discriminating. She's being held to the same standard as everyone else.

That's the tough part... at a job like that, it's so easy to tell if people around you are doing their job, and if one person gets the benefit of 2 or 3 extra breaks (even if it's just going to the bathroom), people will complain and try to stretch the rules as far as possible.

Of course, the article focuses on 'going to the bathroom' to generate attention, even though it's pretty clear that the doctor's note was about the requirement to drink a ton of water. It just sounds more ridiculous to say she needed a note to go to the bathroom. Anyone could drink a ton of water at work to avoid doing their job. Clocking out is kind of dumb, IMO, depending on how often we're talking about... it's probably better for the company to just let that slide or ask her to simply work an extra 15-30 minutes/day instead of possibly creating a media shitstorm over something like that.

Bump 05-03-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 9654759)
Affinitas?

yup, that's the name of it.

jimw51 05-03-2013 01:13 PM

The male employees did not have to clock out everytime they went it was not being enforced equally

ShortRoundChief 05-03-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9654076)
Well honestly, if she chose a different field then she wouldn't have to deal with this. She can go back to school and get a degree in something that doesn't require that BS.

First in with shut up stupid.

suzzer99 05-03-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9653832)
This kind of treatment is an everyday occurrence. Not shocking at all. When large corporations continue to buy up the smaller more worker friendly companies and implement corporate policies this is what happens. Everything sets a precedent and employees are now numbers, not people or coworkers.

This is another example of the destruction of the American dream.

Gotta show that growth story to keep the stock price up and keep the executive bonuses flowing. Can't just run a nice profitable company and pay out a dividend or anything. So if your core businesses isn't growing you have to always be squeezing more out of your existing customers or employees. Fun times.

duncan_idaho 05-03-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9655178)
Gotta show that growth story to keep the stock price up and keep the executive bonuses flowing. Can't just run a nice profitable company and pay out a dividend or anything. So if your core businesses isn't growing you have to always be squeezing more out of your existing customers or employees. Fun times.

Requiring adherence from call center employees is not about profit margin. It is about running a call center.

Without schedule adherence standards, no call center would operate efficiently or correctly.

luv 05-03-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cockeyes (Post 9654739)
I think they've made a "reasonable accommodation", she's allowed to go to the bathroom as much as she wants so long as she clocks out.

She is not disabled, her pregnancy has no impact on her ability to perform any of the essential functions of a call center job.

Paying someone who isn't working is not a reasonable accommodation. Allowing her unlimited bathroom breaks when no one else gets this privilege is, I think.

If I were her manager I would be looking the other way just as good business, but this isn't an ADA issue

So, just don't get pregnant, and you'll be fine.

cockeyes 05-03-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 9655195)
So, just don't get pregnant, and you'll be fine.

If the doctor puts her on bedrest and she can't come in at all, should they still have to pay her, in your opinion?

luv 05-03-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cockeyes (Post 9655201)
If the doctor puts her on bedrest and she can't come in at all, should they still have to pay her, in your opinion?

No, that's what FMLA is for.


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