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Moore better than Berry?

Get the **** out of here.

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9806216)

Peyton Manning.... Pass first offense

Tyler Thigpen/Brodie Croyle/Damon Huard/Tyler Palko/Matt Cassel....RRPP

Tebow

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9806232)

Tebow

Peyton Manning

I think Thomas and Bowe are pretty much even.

I'd put them in the 2nd tier of WRs. If you forced me to choose between Bowe, Thomas and Roddy White I'd have to draw from a hat.

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9806234)

Peyton Manning

None of the teams that Bowe played on in his first 39 games were nearly as inept at passing as the 2011 Broncos.

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9806288)

None of the teams that Bowe played on in his first 39 games were nearly as inept at passing as the 2011 Broncos.

They were all inept

I thought Antonio Gates took an injury settlement and retired 2 years ago.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9806287)

I think Thomas and Bowe are pretty much even.

I'd put them in the 2nd tier of WRs. If you forced me to choose between Bowe, Thomas and Roddy White I'd have to draw from a hat.

Talent wise, yes.

Considering everything, though: 31, 28, 25.

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9806402)

Talent wise, yes.

Considering everything, though: 31, 28, 25.

Well there are so many variables its impossible to argue in a vacuum.

Roddy's been the most consistent but he's also had the help of 8 games per season in a dome with a good to great QB in Ryan.

Bowe's production has been a notch below but he's far and away dealt with the shittier QBs (Huard, Croyle, Thigpen, Cassel, Palko, Quinn) and abysmal offensive production.

Thomas just exploded on the scene last season and I don't think it's a coincidence that it happened when they signed the best QB in the history of the league. He didnt make much of a splash with Orton and Tebow chucking the rock...

Anyway, I'd say Manning has 2 more seasons max. I'd prefer to have this convo in 3 or 4 years. By that time we'll know more about Demaryius.

DT had a coming out party in December of 2011 while Tebow was QB. Then he went on and exploded against Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

He was always talented but he kept getting hurt earlier in his career. He had 97 yards and a TD in his first ever NFL game.

Thomas was actually good with Tebow.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9805667)

KnowMo, that list contradicts this rep message you sent me a couple days ago:

"They left off Trindon Holliday, John Fox, and Wolfe. The Chiefs may have a bunch of above average players but nobody except Charles is a difference maker. Manning, DT, Holliday, Von, Champ and Clady are ELITE at their positions."

-Based on that shoddy list, the Chiefs and Broncos actually have the same number of "elite" and "high quality" players.

-It specifically said it was nixing special teams in the header. Read more, fap to Peyton's forehead less.

-How would John Fox deserve the spot over Andy Reid? They're both 0-1 in Super Bowls and Reid brought the Eagles to 5 NFC Championship games from 01-09. The Eagles were one of the most successful teams during that span. The Panthers? Not so much.

-If you actually agree with this list, then you'll have to agree that Flowers is superior to Champ Bailey. Do it now, KnowMo. Tell us all that you agree that Brandon Flowers is a better CB than Champ Bailey.

:eek: What is he smoking?

That's the benefit of having a HOF QB on the roster, he elevates the game of everyone on the offense. Especially a guy like Manning whose game is based on timing me precision. Clady is great but he's the one that should be thanking Manning the most.

tbh Thomas wasn't even 100% healthy in at least 8 of those 39 games, if not more.

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9805860)

Thomas has played in 39 games, including playoffs. He has 161 receptions, 2602 yards, and 18 TDs.

Through his first 39 games, Bowe had 183 receptions, 2392 yards, and 16 TDs.

And one of those seasons was with Peyton freaking Manning at QB.