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Nightfyre 11-18-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10200922)
Are there seriously people who say the defense deserves equal blame?

It must be Dumbass Day at the OK Corral

Seriously, maybe the offense should try not going three and out nearly every drive. Or try not putting the defense on the short field. Or try to show a sense of urgency with six minutes left in the game down by three scores. Or try scoring a TD from the two yard line. Or try something other than a screen pass on third and ANYTHINGMORETHAN7YARDS.

TimBone 11-18-2013 12:10 AM

I fully understand that Alex Smith and his no turnover style play are part of the reason why we went 9-0, but tonight showed why we can not win big games with him as QB. Too conservative, bad decisions, misses on too many passes over 10 yards. He's just limited. He leaves too many yards and points on the field by checking down so often. Half the time, it looks like it's just a half hearted glance down field with no intentions of throwing it to anyone but the check down. Even the biggest Alex supporters have to see it after tonight.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10200964)
Seriously, maybe the offense should try not going three and out nearly every drive. Or try not putting the defense on the short field. Or try to show a sense of urgency with six minutes left in the game down by three scores. Or try scoring a TD from the two yard line. Or try something other than a screen pass on third and ANYTHINGMORETHAN7YARDS.

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TimBone 11-18-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 10200870)
Quarterback. Give us a worthy Quarterback. Stop trying to mask the weakness of this team and has been the weakness of the team for 10+ years. Get us a Quarterback, not just some system guy that Andy Reid thinks he can "work with". Show us your offensive prowess Andy Reid and get us a god damn Quarterback next year. If you sign Alex Smith to an extention, this 9-1 season and what it ends up being means nothing. If we won the Superbowl with Alex Smith, I still wouldn't believe in Alex Smith. Get rid of him, you owe him nothing.

Wonderful post.

Snapplez 11-18-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10200964)
Seriously, maybe the offense should try not going three and out nearly every drive. Or try not putting the defense on the short field. Or try to show a sense of urgency with six minutes left in the game down by three scores. Or try scoring a TD from the two yard line. Or try something other than a screen pass on third and ANYTHINGMORETHAN7YARDS.

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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10200981)
I fully understand that Alex Smith and his no turnover style play are part of the reason why we went 9-0, but tonight showed why we can not win big games with him as QB. Too conservative, bad decisions, misses on too many passes over 10 yards. He's just limited. He leaves too many yards and points on the field by checking down so often. Half the time, it looks like it's just a half hearted glance down field with no intentions of throwing it to anyone but the check down. Even the biggest Alex supporters have to see it after tonight.

Yeah right. Same old shit.

"MOAR O-LINE"! "BETTAR RECEEEEVERS"!

Ugh...

Down4Chiefs 11-18-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10200922)
Are there seriously people who say the defense deserves equal blame?

It must be Dumbass Day at the OK Corral

not equal but you don't think they can do better? anybody who thinks 27 is the lowest they can be held to didn't think we had a chance going into this game lol.

So they shouldn't be that disappointed and ill take it they expect us to lose here at home too?because in what universe do you all suddenly expect the kc offense to score more than 27:D?

its not about giving the d more blame,its knowing they CAN do better and they have to because the offense has proven they CANT do better than they did tonight. You guys had off the wall expectations for this offense if you expected more than 27. Whats wrong with us expecting more from a defense that has PROVEN they can be dominant,get pressure and create turnovers time and time again?

you expected more ffrom a offense which has shown you nothing to validate it,we expected more from a defense who has shown us dominance over and over again

stevieray 11-18-2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10200903)

The defense DID THEIR JOB.

defense has averaged 12.5 points per game, nothing over 17.

....giving up 27 points doesn't usually win football games.

the pivotal point was the sherman fumble....denver produced points off the turnover. we didn't.

the game is not one dimensional.

stevieray 11-18-2013 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10200983)

welcome to ignore..your gonna piss in the cheerios every chance you get.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2013 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 10201038)
defense has averaged 12.5 points per game, nothing over 17.

....giving up 27 points doesn't usually win football games.

the pivotal point was the sherman fumble....denver produced points off the turnover. we didn't.

the game is not one dimensional.

Agreed on this at least.

But you know good and well this game is about momentum. And when you send Peyton to the bench 5 times, and do NOTHING with those gifts...

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-18-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10200991)
Yeah right. Same old shit.

"MOAR O-LINE"! "BETTAR RECEEEEVERS"!

Ugh...

Alex played like shit, but you have to admit the O-Line and Receivers had their equal share of ****ing up big time.

The Offense as a whole played like shit. Period.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 10201052)
welcome to ignore..your gonna piss in the cheerios every chance you get.

Ignore or no, this offense can't capitalize and is a steaming pile of Yoda-turd.

Saccopoo 11-18-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 10200870)
Quarterback. Give us a worthy Quarterback. Stop trying to mask the weakness of this team and has been the weakness of the team for 10+ years. Get us a Quarterback, not just some system guy that Andy Reid thinks he can "work with". Show us your offensive prowess Andy Reid and get us a god damn Quarterback next year. If you sign Alex Smith to an extention, this 9-1 season and what it ends up being means nothing. If we won the Superbowl with Alex Smith, I still wouldn't believe in Alex Smith. Get rid of him, you owe him nothing.

And what QB are you going to get next year?

I'll wait...

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-18-2013 12:40 AM

^

A new QB is not going to quick fix this offense. It's not like 1 piece is out of place, the entire damn thing is in shambles and the defense has covered it up for the most part. It's shown some life when it DESPERATELY needs to, but you all saw tonight.

Wallcrawler 11-18-2013 08:42 AM

The predictability on offense is a problem as well. I don't know how many 3rd down passes Alex has gotten swatted down at the line, but its a whole helluva lot of them. Everyone knows that its some form of bullshit quick out for about 2-3 yards and it gets easily swatted.

The flares, swings, wr screens, all that little stupid bullshit needs to get torn out of the playbook and ****ing burned.

78% of Smith's passes this season have not gone further than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. Some of that is his unwillingness (or inability) to throw the ball down the field, but a lot of those plays are by design. Im not sure what a team is hoping for when they try to get as few yards as possible through the air.

A paltry 5% of Smith's passes have actually gone over 20 yards. That's either playing absolutely ****ing terrified, or absolutely ****ing unable to execute anything but the short passing game. Either one it is, it isn't going to cut it in a bigtime game against an offense as powerful as the one Manning is running.

And for you slow folks out there still saying that this loss is on the defense because they surrendered 27, try, try, TRY to keep in mind just how many opportunities this defense gave the offense.

They took the football away inside the Denver 20. Multiple 3 and outs against Manning, including three straight 3 and outs to open the second half.

If Andy Reid/Alex Smith had their shit together, this offense could stay on the field and the Denver offense doesn't get so many chances to put up 27 points.

Every time we sent Manning to the bench, our offense came out and did Denver a real big favor and handed them the ball back 3 plays later. **** this offense.

Im not particulary pleased that we didn't get any sacks on Manning, but with the way guys were getting torched in man coverage, and with the way they were slipping and falling, had we sold out and sent the house it likely would have been a TD.

This D held Manning to a single passing TD, and held the offense to two scores below what they average, despite our offense getting off the field as fast as they possibly ****ing could.

D is legit. Andy needs to fire himself as a playcaller and Alex needs to find his balls and his brain. When Alex didn't even go for the matchup with Charles on the linebacker, and threw the football into the ground 1.2 seconds after he snapped the ball, never even looking Charles' way, it was evident that Alex had no idea WTF was going on in that play.

This defense is going to win us some more games before its all said and done, but the offense has got to get its shit together and start contributing to the effort. You go out there and muster up TEN points against an offense that averages 42 and expect to win?

Don't tell me they scored 17. That last passing TD Denver was in a soft ass prevent defense that if the game was still close, that drive likely goes 3 and out.

Terrible offense cost us this game.


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