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Pablo 11-18-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 10202286)
I think Smiths yard per completion are low mainly because of the system itself.

Remember, this a west coast style of offense that revolves around a short passing game. Because he is so accustomed and dependent on throwing short, his yards per completion suffers. That is my guess.

But that is fine. The yards per completion stuff doesn't really bother me. All I care about is execution really. If he is going to throw short, I want our receivers to execute. In the end, that is all that matters anyway.

And this system is ****ing awful so far. When you're throwing passes behind the LOS with 3 minutes left and a huge deficit; then you're just going through the motions out there.

Alex actually took some pretty good shots down field in this game. That back shoulder throw to Avery in the first was his best throw yet as a Chief. But overall; his lack of accuracy, our WR's inability to catch or separate, a porous OL, and a neutered offensive scheme won't beat the Broncos, Saints, or the Patriots.

bricks 11-18-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10202267)
One thing I forgot to mention, and I'm surprised it didn't make the list, but I was ecstatic about Flowers' flat out nasty attitude towards dealing with Welker.

That's awesome. Welker doesn't like to take hits, so hit him, even if the play is away from him, jack him up. The damn game is too soft on the WRs anyway, so rough him up. Make him know you're there. Welker has started sliding like a pussy on some plays anyway. I love that strategy. And for the most part, Welker didn't really burn us too bad. He had one where he punked flowers and one where they ran a really nice pick play (for once not an illegal one) for a first, but Welker was quiet for the most part. 8 for 72 no TDs isn't bad.

I like that these guys are nasty. Especially in the age where they all try to be friends. I'm not really in favor of dirty or trying to hurt people, but that doesn't mean we have to make it comfortable.

It was kind of surprising to see Flowers jacking him up away from the play like that since not many players do that anymore, but I like it. Get in that little honkey's head.

This.

I loved the nastiness Flowers brought in yesterdays game.

Defense is all about attitude. Being nasty and getting in guys faces is part of the overall character of defense. Thats what I like to see, but in this day and age, especially last night I thought there just isn't enough of it going on anymore.

Rain Man 11-18-2013 01:59 PM

Does anyone else wonder sometimes if there were really only eight things about the game, and we're getting fed some filler? Or that there were twelve and we're getting shortchanged?

Sorter 11-18-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10202309)
Does anyone else wonder sometimes if there were really only eight things about the game, and we're getting fed some filler? Or that there were twelve and we're getting shortchanged?

Conspiracy Keanu does.

scho63 11-18-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10201594)
Ten Things About Last Night's Game
(Greetings from the Cube Farm) Everybody look busy, it's a work day....

10. You didn't expect them to go undefeated, did you? 40 mph wind gusts kept blowing the neighbor's leaves into my yard, and blew my Chiefs flag right off the flagpole. That was not a good sign. Neither was Peeholi showing up on the NBC pre-game show. Asking Peeholi for insight into the 2013 Chiefs is like asking Ike Turner how to stop domestic violence.
ROFL
I had this game as a likely loss with a little hope for a miracle. when I saw Peeholi's mug on TV, I knew we were jinxed.

9. Nothing like coming out and playing with your nut sack in your throat. Brandon Albert, who is allegedly our most gifted and experienced lineman, jumps offside on the very first play. Mister first pick Fisher remains a maddening enigma. If there is a silver lining, it seems as if when they brought in Schwartz and Stephenson in the fourth quarter
After the bye week, I had a feeling they would have a lot of nervous energy and pent up aggression but I didn't expect the first play and drive to be such a clusterf***! Our O-line seems to have peaked in week 1 and the injuries to Fisher and Asamoah brought in the backups, who played better IMHO.

8. Receivers-Avery drops-Charles drops-Bowe targeted fourteen caught four. Our receivers are poor at getting separation.
DROPS, DROPS, DROPS, AND MORE DROPS!!!
I keep repeating this is in all the other threads but our receivers look like they are running in quicksand. Bowe was so sloooooww across the middle and Cromartie was in his pocket the whole game. Alex Smith needs to start showing some anger at these guys for these drops-they are KILLING us. I wish we just had AJ Jenkins run a post or something.


7. Alex Smith is looking more Cassel-like week by week.
I'm going to disagree with you on this one. While he is no Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers or any of the other elite QBs, he is a ton better than Cassel. People keep picking on Smith's arm strength but I don't see it. His accuracy has slipped but he is also having piss poor protection. If he had the protection that Manning had last night, he would have had a much better game and he can't make the catches for our stupid receivers. They are killing his stats.

6. Smith took a couple of sacks that were unnecessary. Usually he's good at unloading the ball and avoiding sacks, but he ate a couple that were on him.
He had 4 or more seconds on a two of those sacks-he can't expect an unlimited time limit to unload a pass. The one that took us out of FG range was a killer.

5. Peyton Manning is basically the 2013 version of John Elway. If you settle for field goals against Elway, you will lose. Why not kick off to Denver to start the game? Why are you punting when down two scores in the fourth quarter with the clock under ten minutes? Why are you only giving Charles 16 carries when he clearly isn't getting it done in the passing game? The challenge on Fasano's TD was a good decision. Reid seems to be wise in his challenge choices.
:thumb:
  • I think Reid didn't want Manning to come out and immediately score on the first drive and have the crowd dominate the game with the Chiefs on their heels.
  • Not only did we punt, we punted in pretty good field position and Colquitt SUCKED last night. I think it netted 28 yards.
  • Charles seemed lost last night-not sure why.
  • Reid has only lost one challenge I think-he is excellent with it.


4. Hali and Poe were owned. But zero sacks will not get it done against an elite QB. More worrisome, KC now has had only one sack in their last three games.
Sutton needs to change things up. Denver formed a very tight pocket on their pass plays and with Manning getting rid of the ball in 2-2.5 seconds, we had little chance. We didn't hit Manning ONCE, which is stunning to me.

3. The fumble trade off was unfortunate. Cooper played pretty well after that, until he allowed Decker to get a big first down by the nose hair of the football -icing the game in the fourth quarter.
That fumble was like a stab in the heart of the defense and it seemed to give them energy and deflate us-then Manning hits the pass to Thomas over Cooper and it's off to the races.
I still don't think Decker got the first down and that is a STUPID rule when you are 2 feet out of bounds and THEN you stick the ball out. I call bullshit on the refs there. Bad call IMHO.


2. Bottom line is, Denver was just better on this night, and deserved to win. Road game to New England staring them in the face. Let's hope the Hoodie beats them, and beats them up before the rematch in Arrowhead.
They sure did outplay us in all facets of the game yet we still had so many chances, especially at the start of the 3rd QTR when we got three 3 and outs against Manning but our offense shit the bed as usual!
I'm going to be rooting for Tom Brady and sending Giselle Bundchen some money to make sure Tom is well taken cafe of!


1. One year ago, The Chiefs were 1-10 after losing at home to the Bengals 28-6. Quinn was our QB, Moeaki was our leading receiver. That was the infamous "Blackout" game. A year later, the team is 9-1, tied for first in the AFC West, battling for the division and home field advantage in the playoffs.
:rockon:
I'm going to enjoy this as much as possible and realize our limitations on offense so I don't expect too much. If we achieve ANYTHING in the playoffs, I will consider it a success. I would love to get to the Super Bowl but when I look at playing New England in their place or Denver in Mile High, I realize our limitations. I'm not afraid of the Bengals or Colts.....

Game pictures from the Star are here:
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/17...mile-high.html

When I first logged onto CP this morning and didn't see your Ten Things, I got nervous and upset. Don't tease me like that as it's the only reason I can stomach a loss!

Another fine write up with a nice variety of valid points Gblowfish! :thumb:

Easy 6 11-18-2013 02:03 PM

Nailed it once again gb, Smith had a few muffs but overall i put this on the O line and receivers, both units suck serious ass.

Maybe Andy Heck should start coaching in Canada or something, the guy sucks and i've never liked him.

rabblerouser 11-18-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10202299)
And this system is ****ing awful so far. When you're throwing passes behind the LOS with 3 minutes left and a huge deficit; then you're just going through the motions out there.

Alex actually took some pretty good shots down field in this game. That back shoulder throw to Avery in the first was his best throw yet as a Chief. But overall; his lack of accuracy, our WR's inability to catch or separate, a porous OL, and a neutered offensive scheme won't beat the Broncos, Saints, or the Patriots.

exactly what I said in the 'bandwagon' thread...but I really think it's Reid and Pederson who need to nut up and start slinging the ball.

this bs about using the pass as an 'extended handoff' and controlling the field w/short passes is fine against the Oaklands, Houstons, J-villes, Buffalos and Clevelands of the world.

Not against the Pats, Saints, Broncos, etc.

gotta nut up and strike deep.

Rain Man 11-18-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10202313)
Conspiracy Keanu does.

What is the 11th thing, Gblowfish? WHAT IS THE 11TH THING?

Sorter 11-18-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10202347)
What is the 11th thing, Gblowfish? WHAT IS THE 11TH THING?

ROFL

bricks 11-18-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10202299)
And this system is ****ing awful so far. When you're throwing passes behind the LOS with 3 minutes left and a huge deficit; then you're just going through the motions out there.

Alex actually took some pretty good shots down field in this game. That back shoulder throw to Avery in the first was his best throw yet as a Chief. But overall; his lack of accuracy, our WR's inability to catch or separate, a porous OL, and a neutered offensive scheme won't beat the Broncos, Saints, or the Patriots.

You've just pretty much summed up our offense and the reason we won't succeed in a nutshell.

Im not a big fan of this system either. It is what it is and it will be here for a while. It's tough to accept but we have no other choice. Im trying to be optimistic by being hopeful.

I hope we get some more skilled players/playmakers on offense because it is clear, like george said, we don't have enough of those. if we could do that, everything else will take care of itself.

InChiefsHeaven 11-18-2013 02:45 PM

Was anyone else surprised by the amount of laundry thrown against the Donks? I was pleasantly surprised. The Refs seemed to call a pretty good game, I didn't see anything that was total BS. They did miss a hold against Hali, the commentators even mentioned it, but they always miss those.

They got flagged at least 3 times for holding on the receivers, which tells me that they were being seriously physically aggressive. Perhaps another reason why we looked so slow, because they were jamming and hitting our receivers who could not overcome that.

Their Defense was a lot better than anticipated. Looks like the Donks are coming on at the right time for them in all phases. We'll see what happens down the road, but the way they pretty much handled the Chiefs all night...doesn't bode well for KC.

Groves 11-18-2013 02:51 PM

Here's an idea for fan confidence, in addition to the the obvious ones like "catch balls", and "score points":

Don't muff the opening kickoff. In some aborigine cultures, that decides the entire game.

ThaVirus 11-18-2013 02:51 PM

I felt the no-calls on the Hali holds, Demaryius Thomas push off for the big gain, defensive hold on Bowe in a crucial 3rd down situation were total bullshit, as was the DPI called on Flowers in the endzone.

We got one back on Bowe's push off for our first TD.

I won't bitch about officiating in a game where we did everything to beat ourselves.

Sandy Vagina 11-18-2013 02:52 PM

Briefly grinded teeth over the Cassel part, but as always, agreed and enjoyed most of it. :thumb:

Straight, No Chaser 11-18-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10202328)
Nailed it once again gb, Smith had a few muffs but overall i put this on the O line and receivers, both units suck serious ass.

Maybe Andy Heck should start coaching in Canada or something, the guy sucks and i've never liked him.

After Smiffy looks at the tape, he may realize taking those sacks and not throwing to Jamal when he was matched up against Travathian is not good QB play against anyone


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