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htismaqe 02-03-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10411224)
Teams win championships, not quarterbacks. In the rush to create these narratives about postseason clutchness, it seems many forget that.

Did Peyton choke yesterday? For me, no. He just got beat by a far superior team. Peyton Manning covered up for the Broncos' flaws all season until they finally ran into a defense that could handle them.

Some of those flaws are the direct result of having to fit Peyton Manning's contract into the overall team construct.

htismaqe 02-03-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10411235)
2nd. Still far from half dozen
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There's a 3rd too.

But you're just being a bitch so I'm not gonna bother.

KC_Connection 02-03-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10411236)
Some of those flaws are the direct result of having to fit Peyton Manning's contract into the overall team construct.

Sure, but it's not like they have any kind of an option there. Without Manning, the Broncos are essentially nothing. Just another 6-7 win team out of the playoffs.

threebag 02-03-2014 11:56 AM

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MahiMike 02-03-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10411005)
So you're gathering all your information from highlights and talking heads? Good luck with that.

Wilson was the epitome of game manager yesterday. Nothing more, nothing less.
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What he was, was the same QB he was all year. Throwing tight spirals into tight coverage for TD's. His arm strength was twice that of peyton's. If manning looks at that game honestly, he will know it's time to retire.

MahiMike 02-03-2014 12:16 PM

You know who Wilson reminds me of? Alex Smith.

O.city 02-03-2014 01:28 PM

It's not really that paying an elite QB is a bad thing, it's just that when you do pay him that, he has to play to that number.

Like a baseball WAR type thing. If I'm paying a guy to produce at a 4 WAR and he's producing a 2 WAR, while I'm still getting production, it's not enough to make up for the other areas where I have to be worse because I don't have the money to pay for top talent.

Rausch 02-03-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10411314)
What he was, was the same QB he was all year. Throwing tight spirals into tight coverage for TD's. His arm strength was twice that of peyton's. If manning looks at that game honestly, he will know it's time to retire.

I don't want him to retire.

I want him to leave a shadow of his former self. Embarrassed. Shamed.

And completely beaten...

Mav 02-03-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10410250)
We have a QB that is capable.

That's all I care about.

And to piggy back off of this. A qb that UNDERSTANDS that he has to have other players to make it work. And wont rape the team for his own benefit.

Like Joe Flacco, like Jay Cutler.

They need to extend Alex for 5 years. He gets it.

The Chiefs will be in contention every single year he is here.

Just build the team around him.

O.city 02-03-2014 01:40 PM

We'll find out soon enough just how "understanding" he is.

Color me skeptical

Mav 02-03-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10411326)
You know who Wilson reminds me of? Alex Smith.

Sighs. Yup. Even has the every one else gets the credit attitude, the good guy charm, and the selfless soft spoken leadership qualities as well.

Much under appreciated. And Russell Wilson is extremely underrated as well.


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