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OldSchool 05-12-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10625278)
Espn seems to think Daniel has backup position solidified.

Ya think? Lol. He's the only one on this roster with anything close to Smith's mobility and therefore the only one who is likely to be able to survive behind this OL.

The Franchise 05-12-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10623906)
Nico is technically backing up DJ, and from what I saw in the San Diego game, he's doing a terrible job at it.

James Michael-Johnson is the dude behind Mays.

I'm rooting for James Michael-Johnson to step up and show something. Local kid from around here.

WhiteWhale 05-12-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10623055)
Lots of good position battles to look forward to. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Commings will be healthy.

Should probably go ahead and cross the fingers on your other hand that he can play at a high level in the NFL as well.

htismaqe 05-12-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10625514)
Should probably go ahead and cross the fingers on your other hand that he can play at a high level in the NFL as well.

Yep.

ct 05-12-2014 11:39 AM

QB - very possible murray gets a redshirt and we keep all four. i'm with you and hopeful bray has shown something and murray is healthy and shows competent to dump daniels and roll the dice with the young guys as #2/3

OLine - from the hopeful side, I really want to see Rishaw pan out as they seem to feel he's ready. Linkenbach as our swing T just scares the piss out of me, seriously. This is my #1 fear aside from QB injury for the entire team honestly. I think the LG side we overlook that Kush could step into C and Hudson could slide over to fill in (replace?) Allen at LG. Sure like what I read on our two 6th round prospects, but only time will tell. Seriously tho, we all know the biggest Q on the OLine. If fish doesn't step up and play well, we got serious problems.

CB - the competition here is pretty awesome, i'm pretty stoked about this offseason at corner. I see one of two things, either Flowers is traded for a '15 pick, or Parker's growth has to beat out the experience factor Owens has in his pocket. Which two guys start on the outside is actually kinda interesting...

S - I'm not terribly worried about starting FS as most. I feel Abdullah can do well, and if Commings actually surprises that's a sweet bonus. The 4th S spot is a bigger question. Abdullah can backup Berry if he were to miss time, but then we NEED Commings to play, or...or what do we got now? No idea ...

OldSchool 05-12-2014 12:27 PM

Anyone expecting anything out of Demarcus Van Dyke? The guy was a former 3rd round pick who ran a 4.28 and was drafted by Davis. He showed promise in coverage but his career has been derailed so far by injuries (dislocated shoulder 2012, severely injured hamstring 2013). He's got a real shot as well if we decide to go with 5 CBs.

Flowers - if we don't trade him for a WR or future 2015 pick, he's a lock

Smith - Lock. He's our best corner in this system, sadly. Let's hope he can play a full season at a high level instead of just half of one.

Gaines - Lock. 3rd round pick with tremendous man coverage ability due to his natural ability to shadow just about anyone. Displays great anticipation to go up and break up the pass as well. Tenacious in coverage and makes up for his lack in strength with his length and athleticism.

Cooper - Lock, they won't let him go after all of that potential that he showed last year. Hell, he developed so fast, considering his lack of experience as a CB, he might actually be a #1 level CB this year if everything went well for him. Very similar to Richard Sherman's meteoric growth in a tougher system to play in.

Demarcus Van Dyke - Fastest player on the roster when healthy, exceptional ability and showed promise early in career. Can he stay healthy and has he developed at all without much work on the field since his rookie year? Long shot but one worth taking. You can't teach world class speed.

Ron Parker - Another corner with really good speed with 4.3-4.4 wheels and decent size. He made a few plays for us last year and has the inside track to that 5th CB position.

Chris Owens - Smaller slot corner who has a bit more speed than Brandon Flowers and more experience playing in the slot. Not a great or even good player, just solid. Lowest upside of all our CBs. I really don't see him making the team, especially if they plan to hold on to Flowers.

The Franchise 05-12-2014 12:38 PM

I would look at trading Flowers for a 2015 pick now. Roll with Smith, Cooper, Gaines and Parker as our top 4 corners. Van Dyke and Parker can battle it out for the 5th spot.

RealSNR 05-12-2014 01:23 PM

Flowers for even a 5th or 6th rounder would have been really nice right now.

I sure hope Dorsey didn't get any offers for Flowers, because this one kind of stings. We ain't even getting one of those almighty super awesome jizztastic comp picks I keep hearing so much about.

KC native 05-12-2014 03:12 PM

Dorsey is clearly protecting Chase Daniel because he didn't bring in the prototype AKA CASEY MOTHER****ING PACHALL. So I don't expect any real training camp battles for QB.

saphojunkie 05-12-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10623895)
Daniel_

Daniel.

Singular. No ****ing S.

Daniel.

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jd1020 05-12-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10625713)
Flowers for even a 5th or 6th rounder would have been really nice right now.

I sure hope Dorsey didn't get any offers for Flowers, because this one kind of stings. We ain't even getting one of those almighty super awesome jizztastic comp picks I keep hearing so much about.

Just you wait. 2018 is right around the corner. Who are we looking at for prospects in that pool?

suzzer99 05-12-2014 03:46 PM

If Gaines comes on really strong maybe we can move Flowers to safety.

OldSchool 05-12-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10626002)
Just you wait. 2018 is right around the corner. Who are we looking at for prospects in that pool?

The 2015 WR class actually looks pretty decent. Not as deep as this one was, but as long as we take one in the 1st or 2nd we should have as good a chance to land a future #1.

jd1020 05-12-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10626015)
The 2015 WR class actually looks pretty decent. Not as deep as this one was, but as long as we take one in the 1st or 2nd we should have as good a chance to land a future #1.

I'm talking about 2018, when we get a comp pick for Flowers after we don't trade him. Thinking long term over here, building for the future.

Mr. Laz 05-12-2014 03:50 PM

will anyone step up at WR?


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