Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11059789)

I don't think we will make many painful cuts. I'm sure and hope at some point, we start trimming the fat of the stopgaps Dorsey brought in year 1. But our cap situation improves dramatically after this year and two years from now looks great.

I am sure we are done with the flashy free agency moves and will see much more reliance on signing our own and using the draft and scrap pile to fill in the rest. Keep in mind Reid had an interview where he specifically said he likes keeping players for continuity purposes. So I'm guessing that if you're still in house, Reid is going to make the case for that person to stay.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11058988)

I've argued that the Chiefs need to spend money to keep Houston, Hudson, Bailey, Vickerson, Josh Martin, Sherman, Demetrius Harris, Mauga, Chris Owens, and Gafford back.

This is a winning squad. We just need to extend Hali, have a really good draft class, and somehow get a #2 WR.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11060093)

I hope not. Pay him his $12,000,000 next year and let him walk or cut him and save $9,000,000. He's just starting to show his age, and I'd rather let him go a year too soon than a year too late.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11060083)

Why would we extend Hali?

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11060222)

I'm not a cap guru like some guys on here but it seems we could extend him and actually lower his cap hit this coming season.

Of course, he'd have to agree to taking a pay cut for that to work. Dorsey would also have to feel that he's worth keeping around at a cheaper, but probably still pretty expensive relatively speaking, price while his most recent 1st rounder rides the pine.

I love Hali but I just can't see that happening.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11060222)

I'm not a cap guru like some guys on here but it seems we could extend him and actually lower his cap hit this coming season.

Of course, he'd have to agree to taking a pay cut for that to work. Dorsey would also have to feel that he's worth keeping around at a cheaper, but probably still pretty expensive relatively speaking, price while his most recent 1st rounder rides the pine.

I love Hali but I just can't see that happening.

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 11060047)

The cuts I'm talking about are for guys like Avery, Walker, Devito, Mays, and Fasano

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11060231)

Dorsey drafted Ford because he has no intentions of keeping Hali...

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11060280)

I'm with Saul on this.

Hali is a good guy. But he knows this is his last contract. He is going to negotiate a contract that pays him a shitload of money well into his twilight years. Yeah, it will be cap friendly short-term, but we'll ultimately be overpaying him when he turns 33 and up.

If we can get a short-term deal that is realistic about his value as he starts to decline, great. I don't see that happening. So yeah, I think $12M for him next year is fair value but after that, cut your losses.