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Sully 04-02-2015 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 11414304)
Half the nfl beat out drew henson.

And all of MLB.

But yet Brady...

Hootie 04-02-2015 10:37 AM

how? Despite what you think about mediocrity Romo has always had them in the hunt for that division and he's done that DESPITE having one of the worst owners in professional sports who, instead of supporting the team with FOOTBALL people, who surrounds himself with a bunch of yes men and constantly ****s everything up.

They were on the verge of building a JUGGERNAUT but Parcells left because he finally couldn't take it any more and Phillips ran what Parcells was building into the ground.

Hootie 04-02-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11415108)
I always listen to him on my drive in whenever baseball is in a bit of a down period (outside of the hot stove; mid-summer doldrums, etc...), otherwise it's MLB network.

He's opinionated and fairly well spoken. He's not unlike a lot of people I come across daily that can simply state things with enough conviction that you think they come from a place of great knowledge (frankly, I'm actually pretty damn good at that).

That's all well and good, but Cowherd doesn't come from that place. He's just a spectacular salesman. He's ambitious, he's aggressive - he's perfect for talk radio but he's also not someone who I'm going to immediately substitute his judgment for my own because what does being charismatic have to do with being knowledgeable? The guy has no particular bit of knowledge or expertise that makes him more capable of evaluating QBs than I am. He just has a microphone.

You're welcome to back him as someone you routinely agree with, but to say "I'm sure you're smarter than Colin Cowherd" as though the rest of us are supposed to march in lock-step with a particularly good snake-oil salesman is just ridiculous. It's made more obvious why you'd make the argument when you cite the fact that you always agree with him; of course you think he's smart, he thinks the same things you do. It's like liberals that call Limbaugh an idiots or conservatives that call Olberman one. Nope - those are very smart guys that happen to live in their own respective echo-chambers.

Cowherd's a guy that lives in your echo chamber. That doesn't make him smart, it doesn't make him dumb. In no way does that mean I'm going to defer to him on anything.

I don't disagree with anything you say, man. You're one of my favorite posters on this board.

BUT

You want to know what GoChargers refers to Russell Wilson as? Russell Dilfer.

Russell Wilson had a 91 QBR for the game in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady had an 82.

They were both fantastic.

Yet he wants to parade around here and act like Russell blew the game. It's either trolling or idiocracy. I lean towards idiocracy with him.

Bowser 04-02-2015 10:53 AM

The Cowboys have made the playoffs five times since 2003, going 2-5 in that span, never making it past the divisional round. Also in that time, they were .500 or worse five times, and have won the NFC East three times since 2007.

They are certainly better than the Raiders, even the Chiefs, but they aren't even close to being some perennial contender with Tony Romo at the helm.

Hootie 04-02-2015 11:26 AM

...and I could only imagine what they'd be without Tony Romo.

Wait...the Raiders.

KC_Connection 04-02-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11415093)
The Cowboys are about two steps above the Raiders this past decade WITH Romo.

Which shows how bad the rest of their team has been. You put Romo with a good organization and the entire narrative of his career changes completely. You take Romo away from the Cowboys and they are pretty much the worst team in football over that time.

KC_Connection 04-02-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11414930)

...but everyone wants to paint a convenient narrative

it's embarrassing

Facts are hard, bullshit myth narratives are easy.

DJ's left nut 04-02-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11415174)
The Cowboys have made the playoffs five times since 2003, going 2-5 in that span, never making it past the divisional round. Also in that time, they were .500 or worse five times, and have won the NFC East three times since 2007.

They are certainly better than the Raiders, even the Chiefs, but they aren't even close to being some perennial contender with Tony Romo at the helm.

Well having an oil baron as his GM may have something to do with that.

Tony Romo has not been the reason those teams have struggled at all and in fact he's the only reason they've been as consistently competitive they've been.

Romo's an excellent QB and exactly the kind of guy that so many of you are calling for. He's constantly attacking downfield and because of that he'll make some key turnovers here and there. He's not as mobile as he once was but he plays a lot like Big Ben in that he'll move around the pocket and constantly survey downfield, using his legs to buy just enough time to take the longer shot. On a board where our QB's mere playing style makes him dogshit to many of you, Romo should be worshipped as a God. He plays exactly how you would want and he does it quite well.

Hootie 04-02-2015 11:42 AM

I'm telling you right now...

if Tony Romo was the Chiefs starting QB next year the Chiefs would be the best team in the AFC, and arguably the best team in football

O.city 04-02-2015 12:02 PM

The fault with the Cowboys isn't wth romo, he's hidden it. It's with the organization and the structure of it.

DJ's left nut 04-02-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11415371)
The fault with the Cowboys isn't wth romo, he's hidden it. It's with the organization and the structure of it.

You hope that history gives him the Archie Manning treatment.

I suspect it won't.

He's one of the better examples of a great QB stuck in a shitty organization we'll ever see.

Hootie 04-02-2015 12:23 PM

Nah! He botched a snap and nearly ran it in for a score anyways but now he'll forever be labeled a choker. Just like Kobe will forever be known as a closer (even though he's never shown this trait, ever). The media presented it that way and the moron public took it and ran.

Seriously, someone will someday have to explain to me why Parcells or anyone on Dallas thought it was a good idea for their starting QB to double down as the placeholder. I get it, when he was backup it was nifty to have the ability to present the idea of a fake. Back in the day, the backup often was the placeholder. I know, I know. That makes sense. But as soon as he became starter why wasn't he replaced? Why was this a good idea?

Regardless, I remember watching the play live and thinking, "omg he's gonna score!" And the DB tripped him up at the last second. It was actually a really exciting play.

But if you're going to call a QB a CHOKER for ****ing up a HOLD on a FG try ...

I hope Anquan Boldin plays in the next Super Bowl, they design a trick play a la Julian Edelman to Danny Amendola and Boldin chucks a pick 6 that loses his team the game and then for the rest of his career we can be like, "omg Anquan Boldin is the biggest WR choker of all time! Can you believe that choke job????"

...or we can ignorantly write a narrative that Romo threw a game ending pick on 4th and 1 and ignore the fact he was on the 23, with 13 seconds left, no timeouts, and he threw the ball to his best player (Terrell Owens) because they had no other options ...

and he did this after Crayton blew the ****ing game

and he did this against the defense that put clown shoes on Tom "Terrific" himself when the Pats were 18-0 2 weeks later in the Super Bowl.

Hootie 04-02-2015 12:25 PM

and let's not forget that this year ...

he threw that same 4th and 1 pass to Dez Bryant in the playoffs with the game on the line and Dez went up and made a play and basically caught the potential game winning TD pass (who knows what Rodgers would have answered with, I'm not naive enough to call it a game winner with that much time on the clock but Rodgers has had a terrible history of losing close games in those scenarios)...

Romo was 1 booth review away from potentially playing in the NFC Championship Game against a team he had already beat that season in a year where critics were calling Dallas one of the worst teams in the NFL in the preseason. I kid you not.

Wanna know why they were good last year?

Let me guess! They had a great oline and an awesome running game!

Yep! Typical. Brady doesn't have enough weapons. Romo and Manning always do.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-02-2015 12:35 PM

Tom Brady

KC_Connection 04-02-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415316)
I'm telling you right now...

if Tony Romo was the Chiefs starting QB next year the Chiefs would be the best team in the AFC, and arguably the best team in football

I couldn't disagree. It would be shocking to this fanbase to have a QB that's actually good, let alone great, though. We'll never be so lucky.


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