Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11848951)

Hooray for unnamed NFL execs who probably suck at their jobs.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11848941)

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...trevone-boykin

Ask 5: What's best NFL comp for TCU QB Trevone Boykin?

TCU senior Trevone Boykin is among the leading Heisman Trophy contenders and is putting up tremendous numbers for the second consecutive season as a dual-threat quarterback. However, many expect he'll have to move to a different position for a chance to make it at the next level. I asked five NFL personnel executives to give me the best player comparison for Boykin. Here are their answers.

Executive 1: Tyrod Taylor
"I'm not a big Boykin guy. He's a better athlete than Taylor, but he's not as good a thrower."

Executive 2: Hines Ward
"They have almost identical builds coming out of college. I think Boykin's best shot at the next level is at wide receiver."

Executive 3: Seneca Wallace
"He reminds me of Wallace. I don't see him as an NFL starter, but he'll be an athletic backup."

Executive 4: Johnny Manziel
"Strictly on the field, he reminds me of Manziel. I think Boykin has a stronger arm than Manziel."

Executive 5: Antwaan Randle El
"He's not a QB (in the NFL), but I like his quickness and elusiveness. Maybe you get lucky and end up with someone like Randle El."

Verdict: That's one vote apiece for Taylor, Ward, Wallace, Manziel and Randle El.

Conclusion: I haven't done a lot of film work on Boykin yet, but after studying him over the summer, I wasn't confident that he had a chance as an NFL quarterback. No matter how he finishes the season, even if TCU wins the national title, the postseason will be huge for Boykin when it comes to all-star games and his decision on whether to stay at quarterback or play a different position.

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 11849384)

Come on, Native. I understand you went to TCU and are a huge fan, but nobody who watches Boykin with an objective eye believes he will be a successful NFL QB. He's a great athlete, but he lacks the arm talent and size to be a quality starter in the NFL.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11851481)

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Boykin is a great college QB and great athlete who will have a good NFL career if he is more Randle-El (and embraces moving to another position, like WR) and less Eric Crouch.

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11863471)

Since I've been removed from the big white QB circle jerk thread, here's some Boykin stats. None of the broke dicks that the brain trust is clamoring for come close to this.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11863506)

Stats in a spread offense don't matter as much as how the guy projects to the NFL system. It's a very simple and proven concept.

There have been dozens of great college QBs who put up similar or even better numbers, who didn't work in the NFL.

Great performance in a spread doesn't not equate to NFL success.

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11863538)

Boykin is clutch. He doesn't get rattled. He has an adequate arm for the NFL. He has an ability to extend plays with his legs (but is a pass first QB). He knows how to win.

The kid will be an NFL success.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11863572)

His size (lack), arm strength (OK but not special), and lack of experience in a pro-style offense, making pro-style reads, throwing to receivers running pro-style routes are more informative about his chances for NFL success than anything you just mentioned.

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11863613)

LMAO

What are pro-style routes? Route trees are route trees.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11863639)

The spread route tree is much different than the route trees used at the NFL level. Spread is much less complex, much more simple, and requires much less reading of the defense pre-snap and post-snap.

Kind of football 101.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11869099)

So, tell us how Boykin did against a real opponent?