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Easy 6 05-01-2016 09:49 AM

That was an oddly positive take from Walter, wonder whats gotten into him?

What I'm mostly seeing here and elsewhere are B's and that sounds about right IMO... theres no clear cut starter in the group, although Ehinger has a shot, but its full of solid depth at positions of need

I would've liked to see an OLB prospect taken well ahead of Nicolas, but other than that I cant complain too much

Mr. Laz 05-01-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 12210004)
Reid & Dorsey's history here has been stellar. For the first three drafts, 18 of 23 picks are currently on the 53 man roster. That's 78%. Another half dozen or so undrafted rookie free agents have made this team (Wilson, West, Harris, March, etc.)

Additionally, another half dozen or so young players drafted by other teams have been poached from practices squads or picked up off the waiver wire to make the roster and contribute (Parker, Ware, Cooper, etc.). Plus, they've come out on the better end of what few trades they've made (Smith, Sherman).

Care to guess how many of Pioli's draft picks are still on this team? I'll tell you: four. That's the same number as Peterson's draft picks. Pioli's draft picks should be in their prime and contributing to this team right now but most of them are out of the league.

Dorsey & Reid took a team that was 2-14 and produced three winning seasons, two playoff appearances, and the first playoff win in forever. And they did it while almost completely turning this roster over. Eight players are all that exist from the previous two regimes. Making it even more amazing is the fact that there are only five players that are 30 or older (Smith, Hali, Johnson, Colquitt, & Fanaika).

The chiefs are winning, they're young, and they are doing it mostly with players that Reid & Dorsey have brought in. That is a track record we should all feel good about. We should try to appreciate what those two have done with this team in such a short period of time. Clark Hunt got it right this time.

Dorsey's eye for talent has been the difference, no doubt.

That and not having crazy ass Todd Haley at HC.

notorious 05-01-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12210026)
That was an oddly positive take from Walter, wonder whats gotten into him?

What I'm mostly seeing here and elsewhere are B's and that sounds about right IMO... theres no clear cut starter in the group,



That's what's funny in my book. If the Chiefs sucked and lacked talent, the picks would be labeled as probable starters and given A's. The "experts" penalize the grading to good teams.

Extremely stupid if you think about it.

Easy 6 05-01-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12210075)
That's what's funny in my book. If the Chiefs sucked and lacked talent, the picks would be labeled as probable starters and given A's. The "experts" penalize the grading to good teams.

Extremely stupid if you think about it.

Thats a fair point, in years past a number of these guys would've been day one starters... the fact that they arent is a testament to how well built this team is

We're no longer forced to start rookies, its a great sign

milkman 05-01-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12210026)
That was an oddly positive take from Walter, wonder whats gotten into him?

What I'm mostly seeing here and elsewhere are B's and that sounds about right IMO... theres no clear cut starter in the group, although Ehinger has a shot, but its full of solid depth at positions of need

I would've liked to see an OLB prospect taken well ahead of Nicolas, but other than that I cant complain too much

The more I read about Ehinger, the less likely it seems that he will be ready to start as a rookie.

Beef Supreme 05-01-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12210167)
The more I read about Ehinger, the less likely it seems that he will be ready to start as a rookie.

Yeah, that pick was a head scratcher with the O-line talent still left on the board at that point. But what the **** do I know.

Easy 6 05-01-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12210167)
The more I read about Ehinger, the less likely it seems that he will be ready to start as a rookie.

It'll be interesting to see how things play out in camp and preseason, the one thing thats really giving me a stiffy about this guy is that every take I read on him mentions things like "nasty" or "a real mean streak"

LOVE to hear that, hope he is able to grab the reins so we can see that bad attitude in action

keg in kc 05-01-2016 11:42 AM

I don't remember many people thinking Mitch Morse would be a starter at this time last year, either, though obviously he was taken much higher.

sedated 05-01-2016 11:46 AM

Can you really take the article seriously when they spell the players names wrong?

oaklandhater 05-01-2016 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12210167)
The more I read about Ehinger, the less likely it seems that he will be ready to start as a rookie.

Other then Tyreek Hill he seem's to be the least liked picked on most websites.

oaklandhater 05-01-2016 04:04 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...unds/83771600/

USA TODAY not a fan of our Draft.

Kansas City Chiefs

Grade: C-

Analysis: This might be one of those classes that will look better in a couple years, since there wasn’t a single sexy pick that was a complete need-value fit. But Mississippi State DT Chris Jones gives the Chiefs more depth up front (and protection in case Dontari Poe winds up eventually leaving in free agency), and the Chiefs might have found a new backup for QB Alex Smith in Stanford’s Kevin Hogan. That pick is not good news for 2014 draft pick Aaron Murray.


Oakland Raiders

Grade: B-

Analysis: The secondary still needed help, and Oakland got the draft’s best safety at No. 14 overall in West Virginia’s Karl Joseph. Moving up in the fourth round to draft Michigan State QB Connor Cook is a sign GM Reggie McKenzie hasn’t forgotten his Green Bay roots. While this isn’t an ideal situation for Cook, who will now be competing for a backup job, it’s a long-game move for the Raiders.

Denver Broncos

Grade: B+

Analysis: Give John Elway plenty of credit for the way he played this quarterback situation. Though a battle between Mark Sanchez and Memphis' Paxton Lynch, whom Denver traded up to No. 26 to select, is far from ideal for the defending Super Bowl champions, Lynch is a good long-term prospect and a far better bargain than any of the veterans the Broncos pursued. Denver also addressed needs on the second day with Georgia Tech DL Adam Gotsis and Boston College S Justin Simmons, helping fill voids left in free agency.


San Diego Chargers

Grade: C

Analysis: Defensive coordinator John Pagano has to like this class, but how do you think QB Philip Rivers feels about it? The defense is now better and deeper, thanks a pair of Ohio State players in DE Joey Bosa and LB Joshua Perry. But other than drafting USC center Max Tuerk, the Chargers did little in the draft to improve their ability to protect Rivers.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-02-2016 08:53 AM

Not sure on ours yet, but Denver had a dumpster fire of a draft...wow

BossChief 05-02-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12209833)
*I'M* not the one saying we should have scooped up Lynch. The Chiefs allegedly were.

And they played passive to the Broncos' aggressive.

Elway gets his guy. The Chiefs cross their fingers and hope.

KC didn't play passive with Lynch.

They scouted him all year and tried to trade up for him, but without a third rounder...Dorsey had his hands tied.

We had pick 28 and Denver had 31...they had their original third and a comp third...we got our third taken for nonsense.

...

If KC had traded up for Lynch, they would have had to use their 2nd rounder this year. That would have left KC with no picks until day 3 in the late 4th round...and a QB that won't play for AT LEAST 2 years.

We would have Lynch, a 4th, 2 5ths a 6th and a 7th.

It sucks, but GODell taking that third rounder screwed us out of getting Lynch.

O.city 05-02-2016 09:21 AM

If they wanted him, throw in an Early pick from next year. If he's your franchise qb, he's worth whatever pick you give up.

notorious 05-02-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12211809)
If they wanted him, throw in an Early pick from next year. If he's your franchise qb, he's worth whatever pick you give up.

Exactly.

It's not like the Chiefs didn't have the ammo. A 2nd next year would have done the job.


They didn't want him that bad, though, or they would have got him.


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