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keg in kc 10-30-2016 05:03 PM

Moving a 250 pound linebacker to defensive end in a 3-4 sounds about like the worst idea imaginable. Might as well just put a flashing neon light on his helmet that says 'run here'.

hometeam 10-30-2016 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12517157)
If Sutton doesn't move Ford to RDE when Houston comes back he should be beaten in the nutsack with bamboo poles. Hali can play limited snaps to keep himself fresh while teaching Ford how to maximize his natural quickness and talent.

In certain situations Hali,Houston and Ford can all be on the field.

This aint Madden

Sassy Squatch 10-30-2016 05:28 PM

Put Hali on the line if anything.

DaFace 10-30-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517017)
I dunno.. more than 2 games where he didnt completely blow nutsacks

If you think he's only had two good games, you're not watching.

mdchiefsfan 10-30-2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12516472)
plays great vs shit lines, stays in the locker room vs good ones..

This is my fear as well. I can only hope that these easy lines are slowing the game down for him and making it less costly to commit marginal errors. If he can gain some confidence in these games, and get the inevitable lumps over with, maybe he will be what we'd all hoped.

DaFace 10-30-2016 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12517310)
This is my fear as well. I can only hope that these easy lines are slowing the game down for him and making it less costly to commit marginal errors. If he can gain some confidence in these games, and get the inevitable lumps over with, maybe he will be what we'd all hoped.

I'm sure it's true to some extent, but it's not like Von Miller and Houston don't get a bunch of sacks against weak lines either.

RealSNR 10-30-2016 05:36 PM

I said Dee Ford looked like shit when he looked like shit.

I didn't say he was a bust. I said he's going to have to stop looking like shit if he doesn't want to be a bust.

I ain't eating shit.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517243)
This aint Madden

LMAO



5. When Justin Houston comes back, how do you see Dee Ford fitting in? He’s earned a place in there somewhere. Maybe split with Tamba Hali? — @RealMcCoy44

Ford has absolutely earned a role going forward. With his huge 3 1/2 -sack game, Ford has recorded seven this season, which puts him on pace for 16. And here’s the thing ... he genuinely seems to be looking forward to Houston’s return. Hali, 32, is dealing with knee problems and is content with a pinch-hitting role, so I’d imagine a solid three-man rotation — with Ford featured prominently — is in the cards. On passing downs, all three of them can play, with either Hali or Houston shifting inside. It will be up to defensive coordinator Bob Sutton to make it work, but I can tell you those guys are looking forward to it.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

Aspengc8 10-30-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517243)
This aint Madden

For CP, madden is real football.

What will most likely happen when Houston is back 100%, is you will see Houston/hali most of the time to match personnel unless its a definite situation or posse groupings (3/4 wr sets). might even see hali there if its a running situation. I'm not shitting on Ford, I just feel hali is better overall in any random situation.

edit: like that article suggusts, a split role. definitely have hali vs heavier sets

big nasty kcnut 10-30-2016 05:41 PM

Ford is a ****ing beast and when houston comes in oh shit it time for the pain train!

mdchiefsfan 10-30-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12517332)
I'm sure it's true to some extent, but it's not like Von Miller and Houston don't get a bunch of sacks against weak lines either.

True. I am more talking about his game as a whole: run defense, zone coverage, and pass rushing. If he can develop where we need him by the end of the season, we may see a terrifying Chiefs defense.

RunKC 10-30-2016 05:45 PM

When Houston returns you rotate all 3 just like you have been doing with Zombo.
Houston will definitely be on a pitch count for awhile which is completely fine with me. Ease him back

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2016 05:56 PM

Llllloaded loaded.

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 12517199)
Moving a 250 pound linebacker to defensive end in a 3-4 sounds about like the worst idea imaginable. Might as well just put a flashing neon light on his helmet that says 'run here'.

Ford is at his best on the LoS ... period.

ROLB/Rushbacker is where he belongs

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12517243)
This aint Madden

I'm not talking about madden

ROLB/RDE - Hali
Houston in at his normal spot LOLB


Bring Ford in on the left of Dline (with extra Dline because of passing down)



Extra pass rushers are used by other teams all the time


It's really shocking how little people around here actually know about football.


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