ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs John Dorsey reportedly candidate for Packers GM (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=305034)

TEX 01-08-2017 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Bossa Nova (Post 12667300)
Welp.

I say they dump Dorsey and Reid both after this season and bring in some guys that will cut Alex and draft a QB in the first round so we can finally get this team on the right track and start winning games the right way.

WHO'S WITH ME?????

Dinny

I hope NOBODY that COUNTS!!!!!

Otter 01-08-2017 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Bossa Nova (Post 12667300)
Welp.

I say they dump Dorsey and Reid both after this season and bring in some guys that will cut Alex and draft a QB in the first round so we can finally get this team on the right track and start winning games the right way.

WHO'S WITH ME?????

Dinny

Your ass is showing.

chiefzilla1501 01-08-2017 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12667265)
Your brain is amazing, so "won't lose sleep" and "replacing with guy who feeds him all info" are OK to post as statements. And now "we just don't know"?

You just made my point for me: Current proven leader and winner with virtually zero F-ups with tons of scrap heap wins, draft wins, FA wins, and virtually nothing negative in 4 years. You absolutely do not replace that unless you have to with an "unknown", "unknowns" lead to scouting candy wrappers instead of QBs.

I'm with you. It doesn't sound like you're saying Ballard sucks. You're saying there's at least some risk. I agree.

We'd be moving from a known outstanding GM to an unknown who has outstanding potential. That's a high bar. And there is still a possibility that he doesn't end up great. Countless examples of all-world personnel guys who ended up mediocre in another chair. In Ballard's defense, unlike Patriots cronies, Ballard was successful in several organizations. But one thing that does concern me a little... if Dorsey hit the market, he'd be on every team's top 2. Ballard's been on the market for a few years, and there are 3 good opportunities (Chicago, Tennessee, Tampa) where he was passed on. Actually, many believe Ballard wasn't hired in Chicago because he was part of a regime that left that team a mess. So yeah... I won't lose sleep if he's our guy, but i'd really prefer not to risk something that's going so well.

BryanBusby 01-08-2017 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12667298)
tampa, SF or 10 other teams doesn't matter, they are blocking one guy from upper mobility in his career. That's the "rare" part. The fact that he is still with the Chiefs tells us that he has received assurances that they are not holding him back but want you for the GM position with the Chiefs when Dorsey leaves.

If the Chiefs were trying to preserve Ballard because they knew Dorsey was jetting, they wouldn't of let him interview for the Bears job. It's easier for the Chiefs to say no for him when he doesn't want to tell a franchise he doesn't want their shitty job.

You guys are grasping at shit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some guys are being advised by their personnel network to steer clear of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash">#49ers</a> job. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash">#Patriots</a> Caserio absolutely was. <a href="https://t.co/KwtYSHqDSO">https://t.co/KwtYSHqDSO</a></p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/817895064974331905">January 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

saphojunkie 01-08-2017 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12667270)
Haha no, you have no point. You're ****ing stupid.

Between you and OTW it's like Idiot Day and the parade marches straight through CP.

BryanBusby 01-08-2017 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 12667286)
Thanks for responding to "Can you logic?" in such a clear and concise manner.

You're welcome.

You can bring up Scott Pioli until your dick falls off, but the comparison doesn't work. There's risk even if Dorsey stays and in result Ballard leaves.

You're fear mongering over bullshit speculation.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12667294)
The fact remains, while Ballard is a big part of the decision process, Dorsey has made the final decisions, and while Ballard is highly thought of in the building, he is an unproven commodity.

There is no wrong answer here.
You do what can if you are Hunt to retain the man that has done an outstanding job of team building, and if you can't get it done, you let the chips fall where they may and hope for the best.

He maybe unproven to fans who don't know/understand the role of a Director of Player Personnel, but he's certainly not unproven to those in the building.

Dorsey may end up signing an extension. But you have to admit, there's a ton of smoke here. It seems odd to me that it's gotten this late in the process.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12667313)
If the Chiefs were trying to preserve Ballard because they knew Dorsey was jetting, they wouldn't of let him interview for the Bears job. It's easier for the Chiefs to say no for him when he doesn't want to tell a franchise he doesn't want their shitty job.

You guys are grasping at shit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some guys are being advised by their personnel network to steer clear of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash">#49ers</a> job. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash">#Patriots</a> Caserio absolutely was. <a href="https://t.co/KwtYSHqDSO">https://t.co/KwtYSHqDSO</a></p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/817895064974331905">January 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There wasn't any talk of the Packers job being open when Ballard interviewed for the Bears job last year. And from what I've read, Ballard didn't want the Bears job and was extremely critical of the organization in his interview.

nychief 01-08-2017 10:38 AM

This is not a rumor... it's a connect the dots report.

Dorsey will have a contact extension with Reid this off season.

dirk digler 01-08-2017 10:39 AM

Well this sucks. I can't believe he doesn't have the same contract length as Reid.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12667317)
Between you and OTW it's like Idiot Day and the parade marches straight through CP.

You're too negative, they said. Never say anything positive about the organization, they said.

Now I'm an idiot for thinking the organization is in fine shape should this report come to pass.

BigRedChief 01-08-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 12667324)
This is not a rumor... it's a connect the dots report.

Dorsey will have a contact extension with Reid this off season.

and that would be a good thing. Allow Ballard to take another job. He becomes successful. Dorsey and Reid leave in 5 years, we bring Ballard back.:)

The Bad Guy 01-08-2017 10:42 AM

To me, this is just a leverage play by Dorsey's agent.

milkman 01-08-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667320)
He maybe unproven to fans who don't know/understand the role of a Director of Player Personnel, but he's certainly not unproven to those in the building.

Dorsey may end up signing an extension. But you have to admit, there's a ton of smoke here. It seems odd to me that it's gotten this late in the process.

Sorry, OT, but he is a proven commodity in his current role, but that still doesn't prove that he can succeed with the role he would be promoted to.

The Bad Guy 01-08-2017 10:46 AM

Ballard himself has declined interviews because he wanted to stay in Kansas City because of the stability it has brought his family. His kids are in high school I believe.

This isn't the Chiefs holding him back, nor do I think it's Dorsey knowing he's going to Green Bay.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:13 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.