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Dave Lane 01-15-2017 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 12689902)
It would be nice to draft a QB.

Will never ever happen, too scary, too risky, need more big fat linemen.

ThaVirus 01-16-2017 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12689662)
It's chicken and egg, right?



Does Andy Reid not call plays with downfield patterns because he knows Alex Smith won't throw them?



Or does Alex just never give those deep plays time to develop and actually try to make the throw?



I think Andy and Alex bring out the worst in each other. At least in years past, we heard Andy talk about coaching Alex to throw deep more often. Don't remember hearing that this year.


By my count we left three TDs on the field tonight, at minimum, due to shitty passes or shit field awareness by the QB.

Reid has warts but these guys are open deep.

NWTF 01-16-2017 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12689946)
Will never ever happen, too scary, too risky, need more big fat linemen.

Hate to say it but I agree. No one wants to take the risk in case it doesnt work out. People say Clark has no say in it but i think hed rather stick with the Peterson model for success. From strictly a business perspective its tried and true, it works. It keeps the seats filled.

Molitoth 01-16-2017 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 12690039)
Hate to say it but I agree. No one wants to take the risk in case it doesnt work out. People say Clark has no say in it but i think hed rather stick with the Peterson model for success. From strictly a business perspective its tried and true, it works. It keeps the seats filled.

I suppose I'm stupid for never having understood this "risk".

So you don't use your best draft pick on the most important position in sports... you use that on a lesser position of importance. THEN, you go out and trade multiple picks for a QB that another team doesn't want...

So where is this risk?

jd1020 01-16-2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12690058)
I suppose I'm stupid for never having understood this "risk".

So you don't use your best draft pick on the most important position in sports... you use that on a lesser position of importance. THEN, you go out and trade multiple picks for a QB that another team doesn't want...

So where is this risk?

Are we strictly speaking of the new regimes decisions at QB? Because they could have literally put a corpse under center and it would have filled the seats just because Pioli was fired.

No risk.

wazu 01-16-2017 12:26 AM

**** Alex.

warpaint* 01-16-2017 12:27 AM

I agree with the OP. He doesn't make plays to help them win games. He just stays out of the way. That doesn't work in 2017 unless you have a generational defense. It isn't the Chiefs only problem by a long shot but QB is their biggest one in terms of what separates them from postseason success.

NWTF 01-16-2017 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12690058)
I suppose I'm stupid for never having understood this "risk".

So you don't use your best draft pick on the most important position in sports... you use that on a lesser position of importance. THEN, you go out and trade multiple picks for a QB that another team doesn't want...

So where is this risk?

Alex as a FA is less risk than a rookie, even a top rookie. You can plug Alex or comparable FA in and with enough talent your likely a .500 team instantly. You probably wont have a high ceiling, but you have a high floor compared to an unproven rookie who could end up being a complete bust at the NFL level or even if he does turn into a franchise QB there could still be growing pains the first few years and the yearly record could suffer and with that fan attendance.

Im NOT for this approach to the QB position. Id rather draft and develop a top prospect. I feel thats the best approach.

Rausch 01-16-2017 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 12690076)
**** Alex.

Brett Favre and Steve Young ran versions of this offense.

Don't tell me you CAN'T throw downfield...

TripleThreat 01-16-2017 12:31 AM

Problem is though, We wont draft a Quarterback high. We just wont do it. If we do, thatd be awesome, I just honestly dont see it happening while we have alex smith at this time in his career.

I honestly think that reid and dorsey know they need a better QB in the future, but I dont think, that they think, they need one right now. For example I think they will be drafting one high in about 3-4 years. But as of right now, I think they see a window with Alex even though most of us see that window being AT BEST an AFC champ apperance and nothing more.

Rausch 01-16-2017 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 12690093)
Alex as a FA is less risk than a rookie, even a top rookie.

That's a great year 1 strategy.

You take that and build under him.

We're not building under him...

TripleThreat 01-16-2017 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 12690079)
I agree with the OP. He doesn't make plays to help them win games. He just stays out of the way. That doesn't work in 2017 unless you have a generational defense. It isn't the Chiefs only problem by a long shot but QB is their biggest one in terms of what separates them from postseason success.

Almost close. Alex smith stays out of the way until the 4th, like he did today. He couldve went out there and kept slinging it. Instead he waits, and hopes Ben has a turnover, or he hopes and waits the defense does something great, or special teams, so that he doesnt have to be the "problem".. By the time he decided it was time to play, we only had one chance, and it was ruined by a hold....

New World Order 01-16-2017 12:35 AM

Semen could have done what Alex did this year for a fraction of the price.

SportsVideoGuy 01-16-2017 12:36 AM

Maybe if our receivers could catch a damn ball, we wouldn't be having this conversation, and everyone would be saying how Alex thrashed the shit out of the Steelers. Did you guys not see all of the ****ing drops tonight?

You can't have it both ways.

New World Order 01-16-2017 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsVideoGuy (Post 12690111)
Maybe if our receivers could catch a damn ball, we wouldn't be having this conversation, and everyone would be saying how Alex thrashed the shit out of the Steelers. Did you guys not see all of the ****ing drops tonight?

You can't have it both ways.


There were 2 or 3 drops.

Besides, every team has receivers that drop the ball.

We need a qb that can offset his teammates' mistakes. Alex just isn't capable.


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