Which stats would be better for you

Completion% PM-77.8 % Alex 66.7

QBR PM- 126.4 Alex-91

Touchdowns PM 1 Alex 0

One of the QB's was playing in his first game ever, the one with the lesser stats was not.

The writing is on the wall for your dream hunk.

This is a fair stance.

Yeah, let's compare a rookies very first pass ever to a 12 year veterans first pass in preseason. For one, it's a huge life moment. For the other, it's as ordinary as getting out of bed.


Alex also had much, much better protection. The 49ers kept guys like Aaron Lynch and Reuben Foster (and a few other starters I think) to face Mahomes. Mahomes had nothing but UDFA around him, and horrendous protection.

Mahomes played well. He had the highest QBR (Alex-only fans should love that) of all three QB today. None of his passes were touched by a 49er. Bray (and even Smith) cannot say the same

Glad we got Mahomes

Great post-thanks for clarifying. I was just trying to put it in perspective. You were impressed with Alex and his 15 TD's all last season and a horrible playoff choke job- but very unimpressed with a rookie QB coming off a week or so of practice and putting up better stats than all the other QB's on the roster. I think people should be more disappointed how the Chiefs could look like absolute shit and lose to the ****ing 49ers at home- preseason or not. pathetic.

My expectations and hopes- were that he would not get hurt, not throw a bunch of interceptions and could take a snap under center and make a play of it. All those things came to fruition as he showed flashes of why he will eventually be the best QB to ever wear red.

It is such a luxury that he can sit and learn for a year, grow stronger in mind and body- next year will be amazing!

[QUOTE=cmdrzman;13007604]Charcandrick West, and the offensive line, pretty much killed all of his drives.

His two incompletions were well placed balls that only Escobar had a chance to catch (which he didnt mostly because he ****ing sucks.)

If he is playing with Kelce, at least one of those incompletions is a touchdown.

Fans need to think with their head and not their heart. If Smith goes down in week 2, do you really think Mahomes will be ready to win games? Probably not. He likely becomes QB2 later in the season when he has a better grasp of the play book.

Not to mention Solomon.

He and Lynch should be incarcerated for the way they abused the Chiefs 3rd string OL.

Do you honestly think bray gives this team a better chance to win games than mahomes does?

[QUOTE=cmdrzman;13007604]Had more to do with play calling than anything... What you SHOULD have seen is a QB that when protection broke down around the goal line, kept his cool, looked at several options, scrambled out of trouble, and threw to the endzone and put the ball BOTH times where only his guy could catch it. THAT means something.

It's just one game. Reid see's something in Bray. I don't know what it is, but there is a reason he is the 2.

[QUOTE=bigjosh006;13007635]Spiller has had a much better camp than West. I have never been that impressed with West, seems he is always hurt. West has been in the tent all camp so it is not surprising he was shut down.

Escobar has been making plays so far- maybe he just got the jitters knowing he was about to catch his first TD in red? Hopefully he bounces back.

[QUOTE=cmdrzman;13007604]Had more to do with play calling than anything I believe... What I saw is a rookie QB that looked in control most of the time, especially when protection broke down around the goal line, kept his cool, looked at several options, scrambled out of trouble, and threw to the endzone and put the ball where only his guy could catch it. THAT means something.

I keep hearing about Bray finally knowing the playbook- did he show it out there? He looks the same as he ever has. If games were played in shorts with no pressure and Bray could just stand back there launching bombs-he would be your guy. Put him in live action and he sucks.

As far as PM2 having to come in and win games- YES I think he could. Would he play perfect-no- the rest of the team would have to step up and cover for his inexperience- but he would be a leader and make plays. Can you say the same for Tyler Thigpen Bray?

He is the number 2 right now by default.

You cant just jump Mahomes up on the depth chart in the first week of training camp, you have to make them earn it. Every one of our rookies is buried on the depth chart right now. It wont be like that come week one.

If Watson threw that ball, it's a pick. At best, the defender knocks it away for an incompletion.

Idiot.