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DRM08 01-11-2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13355244)
Cleveland would be retarted not to draft a QB with the talent available this year while having #1 and #4 .Hell, they should draft two and skip smith.

Every one of those prospects could be a bust very easily. Cleveland needs to build up other areas and try to get a veteran QB.

Couch-Potato 01-11-2018 08:47 PM

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Hoover 01-11-2018 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13355299)
Every one of those prospects could be a bust very easily. Cleveland needs to build up other areas and try to get a veteran QB.

You act as if their roster is dog $hit. Its not.

Joe Thomas - At 33 age could start to factor in however. 3rd over all pick
Kevin Zeitler - Late first round pick. Only 27
J.C. Tretter - 26 - FA center from GB
Joel Bitonio - 26 - 2nd round pick

That's a pretty good line if Thomas sticks around. And with Dorsey in town, why wouldn't he?

They need a running back.

They don't have a WR over the age of 26, plus they have Josh Gordon's rights who is 26. Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, and Sammie Coates plus David Njoku at TE could be a nice group with a decent QB.

On D you have guys like Jamie Collins, Myles Garrett, Jabrill Peppers, and a bunch of other highly draft young defensive players.

This is not a team in need of a rebuild. It has stockpiled talent. It needs to find direction.

SAUTO 01-11-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13354492)
They are a playoff team with Smith IMO.

They are in the cat bird seat.

Tons of cap room. Tons of picks.

They can get Smith and draft a QB of the future, AND still add top talent in this draft. insane!

Dorsey inherits all these good picks here and there and neither are good drafts

Easy 6 01-11-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina (Post 13355178)
I'd be shocked if there were not already several here that have gone to other team boards to set the stage. If not yet, they will.

As previously stated, for Smiths sake... I'd like to see him on the Jaguars, legit shot at a very deep playoff run there

But as a 'for the good of football in general' pick, Alex in Cleveland makes a ton of sense... some of them may not think they want him, but as soon as he beats a few division rivals they'll come around in a big way

Halea41 01-11-2018 10:11 PM

1. When you have a stout running game, best tightend and elite defense (chiefs defense was top 5 for much of smith’s time here), you can game managed. Game managing means lower risky throws, thus less interceptions. In Cleveland he’ll be expected to grow far more. Good luck with that.

2. Who cares?

3. It’s easy to win when you’re on a good team.

4. He horrible in the playoffs. Not just this year, but historically. And you gotta make the playoffs first.

5. Smith has wasted some of the chiefs’ most stacked teams. The chiefs’ were in the playoffs just two years prior to smith. It was reid who turned the franchise around just like it was harbaugh who turned he niners around when smith stunk up candlestick park for six years.

6. Yes, he’s durable, unfortunately.

7. I’m so tired of hearing about how smart he is. This dude made a career on screen passes. Not much pre-snap read required for that.

8. Again, that’s assuming smith is not asked to make difficult passes, which he will. You can’t game manage on a crappy team.

9. Shows the crappy state of the QB Market.

10. Alex smith will be exposed even more in an orange helmet.


As for his deep passing stats this year, two words: tyreek. Hill.

ChiefsCountry 01-11-2018 10:18 PM

Chiefs are a good team and Alex Smith couldn't get them over the hump. He ain't doing with the Jaguars either.

BryanBusby 01-11-2018 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13355483)
Chiefs are a good team and Alex Smith couldn't get them over the hump. He ain't doing with the Jaguars either.

Well we know that but other dumbasses don't, which will pay great dividends when we trade his ass.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2018 10:27 PM

The Browns have some really good sports writers.

Terry Pluto is pretty good. And his article is spot on. Smith has limitations that don't make him an ideal fit for the Chiefs, but he has strengths that make him an ideal fit for where Cleveland is right now.

Halea41 01-11-2018 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13355507)
The Browns have some really good sports writers.

Terry Pluto is pretty good. And his article is spot on. Smith has limitations that don't make him an ideal fit for the Chiefs, but he has strengths that make him an ideal fit for where Cleveland is right now.

What are his strengths that will allow him to carry the worst franchise in all of sports?

BryanBusby 01-11-2018 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Halea41 (Post 13355525)
What are his strengths that will allow him to carry the worst franchise in all of sports?

The Browns probably have a handful of wins this year if Kizer doesn't turn the ball over at an absurd clip.

Alex at least does that decently.

Halea41 01-11-2018 10:42 PM

I don’t think you guys understand what’s gonna happen with smith in Cleveland. He will be asked to make deep throws on a consistent basis, without Hill. He’ll be asked to make anticipation throws. He will be asked to throw receivers open, which is leading a covered receiver to a spot where he’ll be moderately open. He’ll be asked to make tight-window throws. Alex smith will be asked throw more in general, for four quarters. That’s because the browns are bad and dysfunctional. Smith does not have the ability.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2018 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Halea41 (Post 13355525)
What are his strengths that will allow him to carry the worst franchise in all of sports?

The browns haven't had a stable qb since Bernie Kosar. And when I say not stable, I mean that almost every qb has been Brady Quinn bad.

The browns aren't desperate for a super bowl. They are desperate for 8-8. And with that team and their cap space, Alex can do that for them. They are in a different place than them. We need to move on. They just need stability.

Halea41 01-11-2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13355530)
The Browns probably have a handful of wins this year if Kizer doesn't turn the ball over at an absurd clip.

Alex at least does that decently.


Smih’s Interception will skyrocket when he’s asked to compensate for the 31st ranked defense in the league. No more screen passes and conservative attacks. He’ll be asked to sling it, especially in hue’s system.

Easy 6 01-11-2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Halea41 (Post 13355525)
What are his strengths that will allow him to carry the worst franchise in all of sports?

Consistently avoiding the back breaking ****up would be a good start for you guys

Throw in a revamped defense, and you clowns just might surprise a few teams... what have you got to lose? You can keep crying about not having the next Johnny U, or you can start getting your club used to winning some games, while developing your next Big Thing


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