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rabblerouser 11-05-2018 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 13870679)
Injuries are obviously not Sutton's fault. But his inability to adapt his scheme to fit the players he has available to him is definitely his fault.

We mocked the 49ers for trying to cover Watkins with a linebacker. Offensively, we manipulate the defense into a position that creates such a ridiculous mismatch. But any time we start a play on defense with Speaks responsible for a TE or RB in man coverage, we have done the offense's work for them.

Speaks is listed on the depth chart as a ROLB, and his weight is listed at 285 pounds. Allen Bailey is listed on the depth chart as a RDE, and his weight is listed at 288 pounds. In college Speaks was a defensive tackle and defensive end. 285 pounds makes for a massive linebacker.

Speaks' 40 time is/was 4.87, and Bailey's was 4.77. So, their weight, and speed are very similar, but no one expects Bailey to cover anyone in man coverage. So why does Sutton put Speaks into a situation with such a low chance of success?

I am not saying that Bailey and Speaks are not capable of dropping off the LOS and playing a little zone coverage a few yards deep, but if either are matched up one on one with a TE or RB they are going to lose that match-up.

So, if the defense Sutton calls for a specific play or offensive personnel package requires someone to cover the RB, why is that player Speaks, and not Tremon Smith or even DOD? There is a much higher chance for success if either of them are covering the RB instead of Speaks.

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So, blame Veach for drafting Speaks and calling him a ROLB.

Who else does Bob Sutton put over there? Again, if the defense is playing run, and Speaks is out in the 'Tank' subgroup, and the QB calls a hot read right at Speaks...

Well, is that really Sutton's fault? Or Veach's?

Or did he draft Speaks in anticipation of making him a 4-3 end next year?

Idk.

Both starting safeties are out, as well...so it's "plug and play" at this point. To blame Sutton and the 'scheme' is ludicrous. He didn't draft Speaks and is most likely being told to get him as much playing time as possible...

Sutton answers to Reid and Veach.

MahiMike 11-05-2018 07:22 AM

Conveyor belt of a injuries. Hahaha. Nice.

chiefzilla1501 11-05-2018 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 13870040)
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#1 - I think that Mahomes is finally the QB that can solve Reid's playoff coaching deficiencies. Now, when Reid, and the Chiefs, have a double digit lead in the 4th quarter of a playoff game, and Reid has abandoned the running game, our QB has enough swagger, and is dynamic enough to force the issue when needed, instead of throwing a 4 yard pass on 3rd & 8.

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I thought so too. But our game management at the game still frustrates the shit out of me. I don't know how many times Reid has to do this in a career because he wisens up. Many games this season we have been flat out unstoppable and let teams climb back from way behind. If it works in the 3rd quarter why not keep doing it into the 4th. Yet in half of those games we find teams climbing back from huge leads where we're putting the game in doubt in the last 5 minutes. Once we hit the 4th quarter and we're winning, Andy always wants to run out the clock. We shouldn't do that shit with the qb we have. It worked yesterday. But it's not something I want to test against great teams in the playoffs.

scho63 11-05-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 13868891)
Ten Things About Today’s Game: Week 9: KC 37 CLE 21

8. First big problem is penalties. KC has been Raideresque in their penalties this year. We must get some penalty discipline, and get it soon.
Not sure where this is suddenly coming from this year and the only thing I can guess is that on defense the guys are not good so they get penalties trying to "cheat" by holding and other tactics. :hmmm: Our offensive line we have had big turnover with injuries and lots of issues with false starts and holding and hands to the face.


7. Second big problem is tackling.
We are whiffing on guys when we have them cornered for a loss or little gain. We also can't seem to bring down a guy unless we have four-on-one! :shake:

6. Third big problem is pass coverage.
We let guys get wide open too easy by finding soft spots in the zone and also bad backup when a DB releases a WR to the safety.

2. Kudos to the offensive line, which was four Cleveland castoffs and Fisher. Fisher only gave up one sack to Garrett, who’s arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL. Mahomes had all day to throw for most of the game.
Hmmmmm, I may have to disagree on this one GB. I thought our guys were getting beat all day and Mahomes scrambled out of the pocket all day and pretty quick once the protection broke down. I also think our OLine had 4 of the 5 guys getting penalties.

1. So, 8-1 is fabulous.
This is a very different 8-1 than ever before and our early undefeated season where we were 9-0 and then shit the bed. This ain't happening with Mahomes and this team.

Thanks GB one of your deeper insight Ten Things and only disagreed with your OLine assessment. :D

There is NO reason we should not make the Super Bowl the way we have played ALL 9 games including the loss. I'm not afraid of any team if they come to KC.

Most eager I've been to watch a Chiefs game in my entire 48 year viewing history. :clap:

Let's keep the train rolling with a blowout at home against the Cards!

Halfcan 11-05-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13870771)
I thought so too. But our game management at the game still frustrates the shit out of me. I don't know how many times Reid has to do this in a career because he wisens up. Many games this season we have been flat out unstoppable and let teams climb back from way behind. If it works in the 3rd quarter why not keep doing it into the 4th. Yet in half of those games we find teams climbing back from huge leads where we're putting the game in doubt in the last 5 minutes. Once we hit the 4th quarter and we're winning, Andy always wants to run out the clock. We shouldn't do that shit with the qb we have. It worked yesterday. But it's not something I want to test against great teams in the playoffs.

Andy absolutely needs to challenge that shitty spot for the Browns in the first quarter. I don't get it unless the TV view and the closeups were way off.

And the whole spiking the ball thing- we had 3 timeouts and the clock was already stopped- why didn't Andy get the play in?

Andy needs to tighten this shit up. This is the stuff that helps the Pats win games. We can't make these kind of mistakes against good teams.

gblowfish 11-05-2018 07:05 PM

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Where's MeeshMeesh?

Meesh is going to watch the game with me tonight. We DVRed it.


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